Help! Lcd setting issues for s830 screen

Rabbashanks

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Hey guys.
I recently purchased an ebike from greenhybridbikes in the uk.

While looking through the menu settings i fear i may have changed a couple of parameters and want to be sure they are correct before testing on the road.

There are 10 settings. 8 of which i believe are correct/as should be.

I downloaded a pdf manual but that only tells me how to change settings as they are dependent on my motor etc.

Setting P05: Power Gear – 0/3 Gear Mode: Gear 1: 2V Gear 2: 3V Gear 3: 4V
1/5 Gear Mode: Gear 1: 2V Gear 2: 2.5V Gear 3: 4V
Gear 4: 3.5V Gear 5: 4V

&

P07: Magnet Steel Number for Speed Test Range: 1-100

I contacted the shop i bought it from but they are currently unable to offer any advice...

I do know from the website i have a 36v11ah battery but no info on gear settings or magnet settings.
I am attaching photos of the bike, motor and screen & screenshot of the pdf file.

Any help would be massively appreciated!
 

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Rabbashanks

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I'm unsure if I'm allowed to post a direct link to the bike and where i bought it...but if anyone needs it let me know.
 

vfr400

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You have a display that communicates with the controller for pedal assist by analogue signal. P05 selects between 3 or 5 power levels. The controller is programmed to react to the voltage levels in the signal wire the same as if that were the throttle signal wire. You should be able to use either of the two settings. Although I said power levels above, they're actually speed levels. In Chinese, gear means speed.

P09 allows the throttle to work independently if you set it to 0.

The throttle signal wire must be shared with the LCD's pedal assist signal wire, which is why P10 doesn't allow independent throttle and pedal assist at the same time, otherwise the pedal assist levels would work like a hands free throttle or cruise control.

P07 is the speed sensor pulse frequency and should set to 1 unless you have a reason to set it to anything else. If your speed is reading right don't change it.

P12 looks like maximum current level on start up. It affects how forceful the motor is when you start to pedal. Setting it lower will give a more gentle start.

If you need any more power for hill climbing set P14 higher.
 
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Rabbashanks

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Thank you so much for the reply.
I just made all the tweaks you mentioned.

I don't appear to have any mode past 10, so can't do 12 or 14. It seems to just go from 1 to 9 then 0 then 1 again.

I had one more question if you don't mind.
I've set p09 to 0 so i can use the throttle, and have p10 set to 2.

Is this correct to allow me to use the throttle when i like, but also have peddle assist?
I hope it's not a case of one or the other.

When i bought the bike i was told it was restricted to 15.5mph but had an offroad mode where it can go faster.
I can't see any offroad mode setting so I'm assuming they meant the speed can be increased. Any pointers on that side? Obviously i wouldn't mind a bit more power available if it won't kill my motor.

Thanks again, you have been a great help! Hopefully i can have it sorted to use for work friday!
 

vfr400

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P9 set to 0 doesn't do anything when you have P10 set to 2. You can have pedal assist only, independent throttle only or pedal assist plus throttle that only works when you pedal.
 

Rabbashanks

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Am i correct in thinking to use it throttle only i would need p09 set to 1 and p10 also set to 1?
Where as to have peddle assist (most important) but still have throttle when peddling, I'd need p09 on 1 and p10 on 2?

Sorry for being a total noob, first ebike and not that tech savvy. You have been extremely helpful so far.
 

vfr400

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For throttle only, it's P9 set to 0 and P10 set to 1. In this version of Chinese, handlebar means throttle. I think the best setting is P9 set to 1 and P10 set to 2. That will mean that you can set a low pedal assist, and every time you need a burst of speed, you can use the throttle as long as you're pedalling. It's quicker to open the throttle than change from level 2 to 5.

Another option is to take the spring out of the throttle and set P9 to 1 and p10 to 1. That will give you infinitely adjustable pedal assist from the throttle. Whatever position the throttle is in when you're pedalling is the speed you'll get,so it'll work like a throttle and pedal assist. I don't know whether that overrides the P12 setting to give only strong power whenever you start pedalling. It probably does unless someone can tell us different.
 

Rabbashanks

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Thanks again! You def know your stuff!
2 days and still no reply from the shop other than asking me what the issue was.

I've decided i will set p9 to 1 and p10 to 2 for the best of both worlds, with the option to put it back into throttle only if i ever want.

Before i leave this post, i did realise my menu does go to p16.

Do you have any thoughts on p13?
It's the only remaining setting I'm unsure of...
 

Rabbashanks

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From further reading i think what I'm trying to ask (other than pmode 13) is can i have throttle overide and pas at the same time, either by settings, removing the spring as you mentioned, or would I need a seperate cable for the throttle i currently have?

Thanks for your patience
 

vfr400

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#10
The connection to the pedal assist is inside the controller. The signal wires must go in separately but share the same input to the CPU or something like that. The settings give the option of breaking the connection between them, but then only one can be connected to the CPU at the same time. When they're both connected to the same input, whichever one is highest is the one that determines the speed because if the pedal assist is on level one, you get say 2v, but you turn the throttle up to maximum, it'll raise it to 4v, so that's what the CPU will see.

P13 is to match the pedal sensor to the controller. If it's working, don't change it.

P14 is the interesting one because it controls the power. The higher the number, the more power you get and the faster your battery depletes. 12A default is pretty low unless you don't weigh much. 16A or 17A would liven things up a bit.
 

Rabbashanks

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Are you saying that because they currently share a connection, there likely isn't a way to have both work at the same time as the two cables have only one input and have to share? Or is it likely there are more inputs and mine has been wired in a way thats possible to change so they both run independently as i like?
I'm trying to follow it, re reading it over and letting it sink in. Hopefully this isn't overly annoying for you to explain mate.
 

vfr400

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#12
The settings don't allow the pedal assist to work along with an independent throttle. You can have that with many controllers, but not with yours. It's logical that the reason is that their combined signals go into a single input. That input could be in the software or a physical pin on the CPU. Whatever it is, you can't change it. You must choose between one of these three.
1. Pedal assist only, no throttle
2. Completely independent throttle only, no pedal assist
3. Pedal assist plus throttle, where the throttle only works when you pedal.
 

Rabbashanks

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Thank you very much. You have saved me a lot of time and frustration.
All the best!
 

Rabbashanks

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The connection to the pedal assist is inside the controller. The signal wires must go in separately but share the same input to the CPU or something like that. The settings give the option of breaking the connection between them, but then only one can be connected to the CPU at the same time. When they're both connected to the same input, whichever one is highest is the one that determines the speed because if the pedal assist is on level one, you get say 2v, but you turn the throttle up to maximum, it'll raise it to 4v, so that's what the CPU will see.

P13 is to match the pedal sensor to the controller. If it's working, don't change it.

P14 is the interesting one because it controls the power. The higher the number, the more power you get and the faster your battery depletes. 12A default is pretty low unless you don't weigh much. 16A or 17A would liven things up a bit.
Sorry to resurrect this post but in regards to 12 and 14 on the menu...
I set p12 to 5 (max) and p14 to 17a from 12a like you suggested.
Is there any reason i can't take it to 20a (highest menu option i have) or was 17a a max suggestion?

Thanks again mate!
 

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