Newbie ebiker - just ordered an Orbea Keram

gruntfutuk

Finding my (electric) wheels
Mar 12, 2019
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Greetings all from Shropshire (roughly in the middle of the UK, for those beyond our shores). I am delighted to have found this group. So inspiring, helpful and interesting.

Newbie
I become a fully fledged ebiker in a couple of weeks, when I shall start using my new ready-built ebike for a short daily commute to work (uphill from home). Only about 2 mile (3 Km) each way, but not something I can take on with a regular bike because I am not fit enough to avoid getting sweaty on the uphill ride and we have no showers at work. I am purchasing an Orbea Keram ebike from a local cycling specialist shop (rather than online or a major retailer).

Life-style change
I have been going through a life-style change (not least because of being diagnosed diabetic a few months ago - lost three stone (42 pounds / 19 Kg) since then through change of lifestyle and had already lost over six stone (84 pounds / 38 Kg) in the preceding two years through a diet change). Whilst I go to the gym semi-regularly, for gentle (mostly) exercise, I don't too much out and about (especially during the winter as I am a serious asthmatic and breathing cold damp air is less than ideal although asthma condition has got better with weight loss).

Whilst I have a decent basic hybrid bike (a Trek), I do not use it much despite enjoying riding not least because of the aforementioned hill that is a bit too steep close to the house that I need to climb before getting to the fun bit.

An ebike will get me out riding more, including commuting to work daily (rather than using the BEV car). This supports my life style change. I am confident that I shall learn to be less reliant on the motor over time (other than for the sweat avoidance measures when heading to work) and will use the standard hybrid as well in due course.

The bike
I appreciate this bike is not going to set any hearts here alight as it has the standard EU/UK restrictions on power, speed and delivery and Orbea seems not that well represented in the ebike world despite being a significant name in cycling generally for nearly a hundred years. I also recognise that the bike is at the relatively low end in terms of motor, transmission, etc. I thoroughly enjoyed my test ride though and felt very comfortable on the bike.

I chose this bike as it was one of a limited range of ebikes from a nearby well established local specialist cycling shop, recently relocated to nice shiny new larger premises, that stock only a small range of ebikes, including models from Saracen, Orbea, and Ridgeback, but know them and traditional cycles and cycling well. I prefered to purchase with the advice and support of a local specialist with a passion for cycling than from a nearby ebike only dealer with a vast range of makes but seemingly little interest in or knowledge of cycling - they go on about being Bosch trained, but not trained or experienced in bicycle maintenance/adjustment (they have a lot of the Scott and sister company models, as well as GoCycles, Eskuta, FreeGo, BadBike, Juicy, etc.)

I've ordered an Orbea Karam and the shop are throwing in some modifications for me including lights, rack, mudguards, locks, free serving (first two), and as many adjustments/changes (seat, handlebars, etc) as I need until I am completely happy.

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gruntfutuk

Finding my (electric) wheels
Mar 12, 2019
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Shropshire
Hi welcome
Enjoy the new steed
Thanks. Very much looking forward to getting to know it.

My wife has a Hybrid Trek and I will be researching options here for a possible upgrade to make it an ebike. She is seriously vertically challenged (only 4'10" / ~1.5M) and it was a challenge to get a bike fitted for her in the first place.

I was initially thinking a front wheel hub replacement would be the easiest (Swytch maybe) but as she is not a confident rider and I've heard front wheel powered upgrades make for a twitchy bike I will have to explore more options.
 

Benjahmin

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I find the twitchiness of front hubs only comes into play on very steep roads with a gravelly or slimey surface. Slow speed tight mavouvres can also be a bit interesting. OK for confident riders but as you say your wife isn't, I would say go for a rear hub. Frame battery would give better weight distribution, rack battery if not possible. Or, possibly, a soft shell battery carried in a pannier to get the weight lower.
The Swytch system carries all the weight at the front - don't know how thwt would handle. Also I'm not sure we've seen much report back from them yet, I seem to remember there being delivery/customer service issues. I could be wrong on that - I dealt with Panda myself, in the past, and found them very responsive but that seems to have changed.
 
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Phil Dryden

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"I appreciate this bike is not going to set any hearts here alight as it has the standard EU/UK restrictions on power, speed and delivery and Orbea seems not that well represented in the ebike world despite being a significant name in cycling generally for nearly a hundred years. I also recognise that the bike is at the relatively low end in terms of motor, transmission, etc. I thoroughly enjoyed my test ride though and felt very comfortable on the bike".

"I prefered to purchase with the advice and support of a local specialist with a passion for cycling"

Hi
I would not be concerned about Orbea not being, perhaps, a frequently occurring name on the forum. You have followed the 2 Golden Rules of buying an ebike - Number 1 Try the bike and be sure it meets your requirements, and Number 2 Buy from a dealer you have confidence in. Orbea is a good enough name in the cycling world, and I'm sure it will give you a lot of pleasure. Enjoy your riding! :D
 

saneagle

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Oct 10, 2010
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A few electric bikes around here now. I might see you one day soon. I'll look out for you when I go down to Morrison's. I've got a Carrera Vulcan that I bought used for £400. It's like new so a bit of a bargain. It's a great bike. No problems with it in 200 miles. So the two shops are Plush Hill Cycles next to Morrison's and Severn Valley at Halesfield.
 

gruntfutuk

Finding my (electric) wheels
Mar 12, 2019
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Shropshire
A few electric bikes around here now. I might see you one day soon. I'll look out for you when I go down to Morrison's. I've got a Carrera Vulcan that I bought used for £400. It's like new so a bit of a bargain. It's a great bike. No problems with it in 200 miles. So the two shops are Plush Hill Cycles next to Morrison's and Severn Valley at Halesfield.
It is Push Hill Cycles that I am buying from, and Severn Valley that I was cautious about (although he seemed very knowledgeable about the ebikes, he confirmed he was the only trained member of staff for ebikes).
 

gruntfutuk

Finding my (electric) wheels
Mar 12, 2019
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Shropshire
Hi
I would not be concerned about Orbea not being, perhaps, a frequently occurring name on the forum. You have followed the 2 Golden Rules of buying an ebike - Number 1 Try the bike and be sure it meets your requirements, and Number 2 Buy from a dealer you have confidence in. Orbea is a good enough name in the cycling world, and I'm sure it will give you a lot of pleasure. Enjoy your riding! :D
Thank you for the reassurance. Much appreciated.
 

gruntfutuk

Finding my (electric) wheels
Mar 12, 2019
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Shropshire
I find the twitchiness of front hubs only comes into play on very steep roads with a gravelly or slimey surface. Slow speed tight mavouvres can also be a bit interesting. OK for confident riders but as you say your wife isn't, I would say go for a rear hub. Frame battery would give better weight distribution, rack battery if not possible. Or, possibly, a soft shell battery carried in a pannier to get the weight lower.
The Swytch system carries all the weight at the front - don't know how thwt would handle. Also I'm not sure we've seen much report back from them yet, I seem to remember there being delivery/customer service issues. I could be wrong on that - I dealt with Panda myself, in the past, and found them very responsive but that seems to have changed.
Thanks. I will focus my attention on rear hub options in that case.