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Trump lost in appeal court yesterday. The court decided that his tariffs were illegal. I guess he already knew that even before he started his presidency but he did it anyway. He's got until mid October to take it to the supreme Court which will confirm the lower courts decision by the end of the year. He probably won't need tariffs that high. By then, congress may vote to keep all tariffs at 10%. He only use them to extract concessions from other countries to get them to invest in the USA, buy american weapons or open thir markets for us products.
 
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Trump polls higher on security this week. Is it because Americans believe what he says on TV that people leave their cars and garage open to allow thieves to take whatever they want?


 

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You need to be cleverer than most of civil servants in order to understand where in their practices you can reform. Cummings's ideas are shortsighted and he is also not clever enough to do this. TBH, I doubt that you'll find anyone ideal for the post. I'd take on a consultant like Rory Stuart for this.


The military is perenially badly managed and financially a bottomless pit. They would do better with less money, concentrating on paying staff better instead of building aircraft carriers or buying expensive american F35s to impress nobody. Half of their money would be better spent on international development aids to reduce worldwide famine and extreme poverty.

It's not their fault if they claim what they are promised. You have to punish those who make promises to buy votes. I would jail them if I could. I would require that all manifestos be fact checked before they can be distributed.


It's just not possible.

The big question is, 'Will Sir Keir fire the civil servants who fail?

The usual habit when a civil servant has become so much of an embarrassment that their abject failure can no longer be ignored, is to promote them sideways. Politicians have been saying this for decades. Some real failures are even moved up the hierarchy or given a gong and early retirement. There is a large canon of writing on this subject for anyone who wants to explore it. Now Starmer's ministers are saying it.

We must re-organise the civil service. I'd even consider making the roles temporary and tied to an incumbent government for the higher power roles - a bit like the American system. The 'Adminstration' moves out when a President leaves office. Why not for the top jobs?

During Covid we saw (under Cummings) a variety of experts brought into the civil service and they were given serious executive power. People such as Kate Bingham who drove the very successful Vaccine Task Force agenda. They left after the job was done.

It is to the considerable detriment of the Civil Service and the country, that it almost exclusively promotes internally to influential roles and that those people are constantly moved from one role to a completely different one every couple of years, as if say Defence needed the same skills and experience as Education, or Health.

It is completely mad, and many politicians have been complaining about the obstructionist nature of the bureaucracy for about a hundred years - but still no massive reform.
 
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We must re-organise the civil service. I'd even consider making the roles temporary and tied to an incumbent government for the higher power roles - a bit like the American system
What American system? They have thousands of political appointees whose job is how to use their civil service for their political agenda instead of serving the community. You would end up with litigation left right and centre.



The big question is, 'Will Sir Keir fire the civil servants who fail?
Most of the times, failure is usually a code word for not aligned to the boss's agenda. It's not like for cause like corruption, abuse of power etc.
They usually get moved elsewhere, like Sue Gray. The system works better than alternatives and avoid complications.

*Sue Gray resigned from the civil service before working for Starmer.
 
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Most of the times, failure is usually a code word for not aligned to the boss's agenda. It's not like for cause like corruption, abuse of power etc.
They usually get moved elsewhere, like Sue Gray. The system works better than alternatives and avoid complications.

*Sue Gray resigned from the civil service before working for Starmer.
They have no business having a different agenda than that of the elected government.

You have no idea at all of what democracy is about.
 

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They have no business having a different agenda than that of the elected government.

You have no idea at all of what democracy is about.
You don't need to think like a civil servant to understand civil servants. They are apolitical in their work. The can only follow legal orders, have to object when given illegal orders, even the military. They serve the crown, not politicians.
Democracy is to serve all the people, not just those who voted for the party in power.
 

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