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jonathan.agnew

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The e-car market makes no sense and the reason for that is the extremes of demand.

When demand for new ones started to sharply rise from the start of 2018, the inability of the manufacturers to supply increasingly led to over a year waiting lists and ridiculously high prices for used very recent examples to meet the demand. By 2021 my early 2018 but current model that cost me £26,000 was getting offers of over £21,000 at three years old from WeBuyAnyCar and the like. This was insane given the battery had three years of use and it wasn't known with certainty then if it would reliably exceed 5 years.

But then the market sharply swung against, partly due to increasing news of e-car fires, partly due to the many complaints of inadequate range as people had rushed to buy without researching true year round range. So at four years old the offers had slumped to £10,000, over halved in one year.

That is why the prices at both ends started colliding as you've found. The problem now is that as the new car demand has dropped leaving makers with overstock, the demand for well used ones has risen sharply as so many low mileage users have realised that they can afford an e-car and that their batteries are proving to be very long lived for low range use.

That new low end market consists of the increasing numbers of the non-employed, the increasing numbers of retired, housewives for school runs, kids activities, shopping etc, second cars for such duties, and family pool cars as the number of now adult kids continue to live at home due to house prices and a pool car with today's multi driver insurance rates suits them all.

So I've now got a six year old e-car that isn't worth very much but is increasing in value all the time as it gets older.
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Indeed, and govt policy/incentives, or haphazard lack of it - without off-street parking evs don't make financial sense now (but will, greatly, five years from now after London's become the Venice of the North and starmer reallocate the defence budget for free public charging)
 
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Woosh

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those two examples of movement were based on the precession of gyroscopes.
When you don't touch the gyroscopes, they conserve their energy of angular momentum.
A spinning gyroscope will try to keep its centre where it was. If you push at the top of the gyroscope, your force is transferred to the opposite side of the gyroscope, like a seesaw across its centre.
In the first video, he lifted the gyroscope and let it go. Gravity pushes the gyroscope to the left, the gyroscope reacts by moving the assembly to the right. The gyroscope will wobble (or preceeds) until it uses all its momentum energy.
 

lenny

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Man who found smooth Mars bar gets £2 compensation
“I think £2 is great, it will be two free Mars bars. Maybe they could have sent me more but I’m not being ungrateful. I think it’s amazing after everything that’s happened that I got the £2 voucher.”
 

Tony1951

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Yesterday I was watching a video by some Swedish Adventure bike riders who were riding in Northern England and Scotland, and they came across our very own member Matthew Slack with his remarkable solar electric charging trailer. It was June 2024 and Matthew was camping by the shore of Loch Ness.

When he came on and I saw the trailer and heard the gentleman explain how it worked - especially the part about how he had connected the two batteries with big diodes to isolate them from charging one another, I thought -'That has got to be Mathew Slack.' I recognised the description he gave of how it all worked with the Shimano battery and how he had described the connection on here.

They even saw Nessy - right after the bit with Matthew in it!!! :)

See it here from minute 14:30 - but I highly recommend the whole video - it is one of the best Vlogs I have seen in some time - though 'Itchie Boots' takes some beating too - as far as 'adventure riding' goes. She now has about 20 million views.

Matthew meets Swedish viking riders at Lock Ness -

 
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Woosh

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Do you still believe in trump's economics? He just fired the chief of Labour statistics service because they revised down the job creation numbers that he bragged about by -258,000. Wall Street reacted accordingly.
Trump collected about 20B to 30B a month in tariffs. Lutnik's old firm now run by his son apparently bet that he will have to pay it all back. The case is going through appeal atm, supreme court in September. The case is so clear cut, I can't see Trump win this time in supreme court. Lutnik's family business is going to make tons of money betting against Trump.
 

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