The Anything Thread that is Never off subject.

[Tony1951]

Why does the BBC refer to this person with female pronouns such as 'her' and 'she'?

German controversy surrounds jail term for transgender far-right extremist

Marla-Svenja Liebich was sentenced two years ago to a total of one year and six months in prison without parole.

www.bbc.co.uk

This kind of ridiculous distortion of reality in a news outlet - especially one so embedded in the culture of the UK, is an outrage. It is an affront to common sense and decency.

Is it not time to abandon the oppressive license fee and make the BBC compete for its money by becoming a subscription service and forcing them to recruit people who are prepared to pay for it?


If you choose to dissent from the paying of a fee of £174.50 each year, to fund this essentially woke, left wing propaganda machine, they actually unleash upon you a mafia like organisation called Capita who run the TV licensing Service, and they send threatening messages warning you that their goons will come and visit you and that if they think you may be watching live TV - even TV funded by adverts and not the license fee, you will receive at least a very large fine and a criminal conviction, and may easily end up in prison with murderers, violent lunatics and sex offenders.

The fact that you communicate with them that you do not watch live TV, Iplayer or anything covered by the license fee, is not the end. They still try to badger you into buying a license and warn you that their goons are coming to check on you.

This is a disgusting infringement of our rights, or if we don't have rights to be left alone by predatory demands for money we don't owe, we should be.

 

[MikelBikel]

Countries that did not impose lockdowns during the COVID-19 pandemic include Sweden, Taiwan, Uruguay, Iceland, and a few others. These nations opted for alternative measures like social distancing and travel restrictions instead of strict lockdowns. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=qhich+countries+had+NO+lockdowns&ia=web&assist=true
Surely you don't still believe that psyop?

If it was a lethal bug then these countries would have no population left, yes?
Notice the unalives only rose AFTER jabs started, eek!
Keep that needle away :-/

Florida has abolished vaccination for children in order to attend school. It's now voluntary. The faxx party is over, yay.

 

[MikelBikel]

3 MILLION , release the sausages , nuff said

 

[Tony1951]

Charlie Kirk was murdered last week by a sniper while he was debating at an open air venue in Utah with college students.

Last year he wrote an essay about British University students after debating with them at the Oxford and Cambridge university unions.

Here is what he had to say:

When I was growing up, people often said British politics were where America’s would be in five, ten or 20 years. What this meant was that Britain was more to the left of America: more secular, more socially liberal, more environmentalist, more globalised. The assumption was that, over time, the left would always win out, so wherever Britain was now, America would soon be.

I travelled to the United Kingdom in May to debate the students and faculty of Cambridge and Oxford Universities in large part because that old assumption is dead and gone. Donald Trump’s political revolution has destroyed it. Now, Britain is the country trailing behind America. Make no mistake: Trump’s revolution is coming to the UK. But as I learned, just like in America, the students of elite universities may be the last to realise.

Trump’s revolution is coming to the UK. But as I learned, just like in America, the students of elite universities may be the last to realise

My first stop was at the Cambridge Union. Stepping onto the Union’s debate floor was like stepping into a time warp, and not just because that floor was once used to plot a map of the D-Day landings. The Cambridge student body might as well be stuck in the high summer of 2020. For all their learning and talent, the students were unprepared and appalled to hear takes that, by now, are mainstream and even boring in America. When I described lockdowns as pointless and forced submission to mRNA shots as tyranny, they seethed and muttered. When I said George Floyd died from a drug overdose rather than under a police officer’s knee, they went into an uproar. While these students have long abandoned the faith that named Trinity and Jesus Colleges, they remain deeply hostile to heresies against a different religion. The Oxford Union was slightly more open-minded. When I described America and Britain as two of the least racist nations in the entire world, the students merely laughed instead of going into a collective paroxysm.


In a way, the students at Britain’s two oldest universities were identical to those I meet in the US – namely, they were completely obsessed with the fine details of American politics, even our domestic issues. I was prepared for a lot of questions about tariffs, Ukraine and Israel. What I wasn’t expecting were complaints about American tax rates the students would never have to pay and Supreme Court decisions they would never have to abide by. One young man even brought up the Stormy Daniels case. It turns out that Stormy has been a guest speaker at both the Oxford and Cambridge Unions. Don’t Brits have their own dumb sex scandals to follow? Why are they so invested in a half-baked foreign one? More than once, students fretted about President Trump’s decision to admit white South Africans as refugees into America. How much do these students know about the asylum laws of their own country? Many were deeply outraged about Trump’s bid to abolish birthright citizenship, when Britain got rid of it in 1983. Keir Starmer shows no signs of bringing it back.

As in America, a distressing number of British students seem unable to deliver a question without reading it off their phones. That said, the students of Oxbridge are certainly bright – and better at insults than the average American. Some are impressively well-informed. When the Gaza war came up, I thought I could expose the excessive focus on it by asking a student to name what African state is now in civil war (Sudan); and what Asian country is seeing ongoing ethnic cleansing (Myanmar). Unfortunately for me, he aced both questions. But being clever is not the same as being wise. If Oxbridge students were long on wit, they were short on wisdom.

In the US, an ideological transformation has swept almost every campus I visit. Five years ago, I’d typically meet a wall of hostility like the one I found at Cambridge. But in today’s America, college-age students have moved toward Trump more heavily than any other demographic. The decline of religiosity among young people has halted and may be in reverse. On dozens of campuses in the past year I’ve met thousands of young people refusing to passively accept the decline of their civilisation. In contrast, at Oxbridge I found the dominant outlook to be a depressed and depressing near-nihilism. They were students who hardly cared their country has less free speech than 50 or 100 years ago. They were appalled that a person might think life begins at conception, but not that their own country is being steadily Islamicised. They loved the abstract fight for ‘democracy’ in Ukraine, but find the actual outcome of democracy in America very icky. That fixation on America says it all. There’s more interest in moralising about the bad man across the Atlantic than in salvaging their own declining country.

In Britain at large, a very different attitude prevails. I spoke to everybody I could while there, from drivers and blue-collar workmen to journalists and the shockingly large number of people who recognised me in the streets. What I heard from them was clear. They’re angry at Britain’s net-zero-driven energy stagnation. They’re furious at the Biden-esque levels of immigration inflicted on them by their ‘Conservative’ government in the past decade. Over and over, they told me they were ready to smash the British party system to bits and elect a Reform prime minister. The great turn in Britain is coming. And when it arrives, the students of Oxbridge will be the most surprised of all.

 

[Woosh]

From ChatGPT:

Tyler Robinson allegedly fired a single shot from a rooftop at Utah Valley University, striking Kirk in the neck during a public debate. While the exact motive remains unclear, several factors have emerged:

Political Disagreement: A family member reported that Robinson had expressed strong dislike for Kirk's views, describing him as "spreading hate."

Internet Culture References: Bullet casings found at the scene were engraved with phrases such as "Hey fascist! Catch!" and "Oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao," referencing anti-fascist sentiments and the Italian protest song "Bella Ciao."

Personal Connections: Robinson reportedly lived with a transgender partner, a group Kirk often opposed, leading to speculation that the attack could have been motivated by disagreements over gender identity.

 

[Woosh]

Make no mistake: Trump’s revolution is coming to the UK.

I really hope not.

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[Tony1951]

Do we have 'Two Tier Justice' in the UK?

One law for the left and another for the right?

Ricky Jones (Labour)?
Lucy Connolly (Not Labour)

Jones addressed a crowd at a public meeting and said that far right activists should have their throats cut. He was acquitted of encouraging violent disorder at Snaresbrook Crown Court.

Connolly was charged after publishing an angry tweet which she took down a few hours later and she apologised for what she had said in anger on the platform at the same time, but she served two and a half years in jail.

This article is well worth a read.

MSN

 

[Tony1951]

There was an interesting section on the Radio 4 World at One programme today in which Trevor Philips - one time racial equality supremo, spoke about his experience at the big protest last weekend in London.

He said that the violence seen (most unacceptable violence in my opinion) was confined to a few people on the margins and was not at all representative of the mass of the people who were there.

He said he spoke to a large number of ordinary normal people who were on the march and that they had real concerns that have been ignored and denounced for too long.

He said there were a variety of kinds of people there, but most of them were ordinary, normal people with concern about the way the country is going.

World at One - Reform lures another Conservative MP - BBC Sounds

Shadow minister Danny Kruger defects, saying the Tories are 'over as a national party'.

www.bbc.co.uk

Trevor Philips speaks at 17m:10 of the video.


I have tried to make the same points many many times and have received ad hominem abuse from some members. Maybe Trevor Philips can make those points without being handed the same insolent abuse.

One last thing - just to be clear, In my opinion, Tommy Robinson is a recidivist criminal and a violent thug. I have no time for him whatsoever as an individual. I have never ever supported him or any of his criminal activities.

 

[Woosh]

Do we have 'Two Tier Justice' in the UK?

One law for the left and another for the right?

Ricky Jones (Labour)?
Lucy Connolly (Not Labour)

Jones addressed a crowd at a public meeting and said that far right activists should have their throats cut. He was acquitted of encouraging violent disorder at Snaresbrook Crown Court.

Connolly was charged after publishing an angry tweet which she took down a few hours later and she apologised for what she had said in anger on the platform at the same time, but she served two and a half years in jail.

From ChatGPT

Person	Charge(s)	Plea / Trial by Jury?	Verdict / Outcome
Ricky Jones	Encouraging violent disorder (for saying “We need to cut all their throats…” etc.)	Yes — his case went to trial before a jury at Snaresbrook Crown Court. (The Guardian)	Acquitted — the jury found him not guilty after about 30 minutes of deliberation. (The Guardian)
Lucy Connolly	Inciting racial hatred (via a social media post calling for “set fire to all the … hotels full of asylum seekers …”)	No trial by jury — she pleaded guilty. (The Independent)	Found guilty via her guilty plea; sentenced to 31 months in prison. Her appeal against the sentence was later dismissed. (The Standard)

Ricky Jones was acquitted by the jury.
Lucy Connolly pleaded guilty. Blame her lawyers if you will but not our justice system.

 

[Tony1951]

And of course you see no problem in a housewife who was angry for a short while and posted a foolish, inflammatory tweet, but thought better of it and removed and apologised for it very soon afterwards, spending two and a half years in jail while a political operator who advocates throat cutting of people with different views at a public meeting with many many people present walking off Scott Free.

I'd have thought the interference by politicians demanding exemplary punishment at the time the Connolly case came to court was at the very least an aggravating factor in the extraordinary sentence she received, AND the fact that she was refused leave to appeal.

THIS is the sort of thing that brings 150,000 ordinary, 'Normy' people onto the streets of London to demand change.

THIS is the sort of thing that brings Trevor Philips to be there and to come on the radio earlier today (see post above and go and listen to the recording) and to say these people need to be taken notice of - they are ordinary people not nazi storm troopers.

Of course you don't see it - you are completely blinkered which is why day after day here you argue absolutely ridiculous nonsense, such as how fusion is going to save us all and that gas should be got rid of as a fuel in the next five years. You are completely mad.

 

[Woosh]

'd have thought the interference by politicians demanding exemplary punishment at the time the Connolly case came to court was at the very least an aggravating factor in the extraordinary sentence she received, AND the fact that she was refused leave to appeal.

can you quote which politicians were 'demanding exemplary punishment' of Lucy Connolly?

 

[Woosh]

It seems that you were right.
However, you may be surprised as to who asked for it.

From ChatGPT:

Several UK politicians and public figures did demand what they considered an “exemplary punishment” for Lucy Connolly. They argued that her sentence should serve as a strong warning to others. But others disagreed, saying the sentence was too harsh, especially given her background or the quick deletion of the tweet. Here are the main points:


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Politicians / public figures who demanded or argued for a strong punishment

Robert Jenrick (former Shadow Justice Secretary): He compared Connolly’s sentence with those for violent or sexual offences, implying hers was too severe but also stressing that serious wrongdoing requires serious punishment.

Boris Johnson (former Prime Minister): He questioned whether it was right to send someone with no previous convictions to prison for a social media post, even though he described it as “vile.” He argued alternatives like community service or a fine might have sufficed.

Richard Tice (Deputy Leader of Reform UK): He has been vocally critical, calling for “Lucy’s Law” to prevent what he sees as disproportionate sentencing. Some of the language suggests he believes Connolly has been made “an example” to intimidate others.



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Politicians / figures who defended the court’s decision or said it was necessary

Keir Starmer (Prime Minister): He defended that the sentence was for incitement to racial hatred, emphasized that incitement to violence is not acceptable, and said sentencing is a matter for the courts.

Some legal experts have said the sentence was consistent with the seriousness of the offence under current hate crime / incitement laws.



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[Tony1951]

No. I was well aware.

Gracious of you to concede that it happened.