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So the bosch system works better in zero load applications. Dysons current ads are based around there cinetic tech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlkw3XFa6xQ longer explanation of the cinetic tech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjO2j3HwkI4

Your not in my shoes however that last post seems very attacking after in reply to your post I raised the topic of this thread and carried on the discussion of a factory made ebike.

The subject of this area of the forum is ebike conversion kits. Obviously people reading this thread arent looking to buy a factory made ebike. There are good examples of good solid ebikes much better than from the likes of decathlon but you always pay a premium against adding your own conversion kit. http://www.ukbikesdepot.com/m15b199s957p15002/CUBE_Stereo_Hybrid_140_Hpa_Pro_27_5_Electric_Mountain_Bike_2015/RS_GB/50678?gclid=CMHAxbTZq8UCFacSwwodZFoAQQ

Ok whats offered in the same price range as the Xiongda kit? Your kits all seem to roll of the tongue easily as well lol

lol sonny. This seems to be the one of the most viewed thread on here atm. My only issue with panda is advertising on this thread. Panda seems to be simply a UK based reseller of Xiongda. There should be no issue with comparing with other kits however there seems to be with some of the users on here. The Ezee kits seems to be quite well made looking at some videos and reviews. Nothing new or cutting edge but well made they seemed to do simple things like making all the components black like the controller unlike alot of chinese kits which have silver controllers, not an important design choice but one that adds alot to the aesthatic of the kit by having one unified colour.

If you work out watt hours by kilo or volume then lead acid is a terrible choice for a bike battery. The cost is too good to ignore though if you live in a flat area.

As of May 5th 3.10am gmt your link is broken. Here is a link to the video your referencing to on Engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/30/lithium-ion-battery-failure/ Though I find watching a controlled explosion much more entertaining. Explosion at 3.30 but watch some of what happens before that.

jonathan75 you arent contributing to this thread only trying to troll me. How dare you say I'm lying. My opinions are my own and at every point I've done my best to explain any reasoning behind my comments.

This thread was started to find a suitable electric conversion kit for my bike and Xiongda was almost immediately ruled out as not being suitable. My issues with the wiring mess on that kit is simply disliked by some users on here who I assume are plagued with that or worse wiring. The bafang swxk kit is a budget kit and uses bullets so that it can work with different controllers. The BBS02 has much more integrated wiring but uses a couple of newer style of bullet connector than the cheaper chinese kits which seem to use cheap automotive ones. Although during posting on this thread I have ended talking about bullet connectors my issue is more with using low quality plastic connectors which arent suited for ebikes. the connectors on an ebike should at least have some sort of seal like on the bafang BBS02. I've added a photo with a similar controller to the Xiongda which has 10 different connectors as oppose to 7 on the Xiongda. This is a good example of a bad kit for an average user as it uses bulky connectors which are usually used in a sealed car with the windows up and arent ever meant to be used by an end user. Also bespoke wiring would simplify this setup alot. Wires 1,3,4 7 all go to the handlebars on any standard bike and simply combining these into one cable would make wire management much simpler. btw average age group on this thread/forum? also having a look at other bafang kits some seem to use modern cassettes instead of freewheels which is a plus.

Johncade you are simply back to troll this thread as you have already done. You simply arent here to contribute to the discussion of electric bike conversion kits.

I would and have just called it "hard faced advertising". You didnt join the discussion you posted an advertisement with a product video not a reply to earlier posts which advertised the Xiongda kits for you. As you've probably read the Xiongda kit is not suitable for my bike, the bafang kit is.The best price is here. What I didnt mention is that I can fit this kit to my full suspension 26" full suspension mountain bike, my 26" speed hardtail speed bike as well as my hardtail 29er to do this with a bafang hub motor kit would be incredibly hard and would require 2 different sizes of wheels with hub motors. My bikes are also 9 speeds and it seems to be unstated what the Xiongda wheels will fit onto. Mike Higgins I have plenty of real world experience in electronics and should never have to use long winded terms like electronic engineering on a thread talking about bolt on electrical conversion kits. The AWG system is simply a wire gauge numbering system and due to the relation between the order of numbering and size its very easy to get confused about sizes of wires like I did when I got my wires crossed.

Panda your kits are low end which seems fine for some of the market and the wiring is messy which is one of the reasons I have called the Xiongdas crap earlier in the thread. Half the discussion on this thread has been me saying why I think the Xiongda kits are crap yet your still hard faced enough to advertise here. Mike Higgins Not 5 minutes ago and I only got the wire sizes wrong as the AWG system numbers wire size to the opposite of their size. Also Im not american and havent spent time memorizing wire sizes. Just because I'm new to pedelecs.co.uk doesnt mean I'm not knowledgable about electrical connectors or that I'm not use to dealing with electrical wiring. The kits I recommended are better priced than the Xiongda kits and more for a cyclist who doesnt want to spend all their money on a system that will most likely fail due to bad wiring. The average user of a pedelec is over 50 and that age group usually spends £200 so the kits I recommended are therefore better. Panda are advertising on a thread where about half the 'discussion' has been why their Xiongda kits are awful. For all I know your a panda employee posting under a different name.

Your selling the kit so I doubt you're thinking about anything but your bottom line, not interested in cyclists getting the best conversion kit. I wouldnt recommend the Xiongda to friends much better to save a little more and buy a quality kit like a bafang. If youre really pushed much better to go for a lower price kit from vpower_ebike or germanladen. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311333640105 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181237508447 Bullet connectors are awful its mainly the car industry and RC community that use bullet connectors and they have moved beyond the style of connectors used in the Xiongda years ago. The style of connectors used in the Xiongda are usually cut off and soldered as they tend to fall apart. Nobody wants a factory ebike unless theyre loaded! Those are usually made as town runabouts and for the over 50s who usually only spend £200 on their bikes.

I think the Xiongda looks crap the wiring is messy and the connectors aren't even semi water proof. Some of the main connectors use old fashioned bullet connectors which always fail. Even in your product video you used a large frame bag to store the esc which is far too big for it and ruins the look of the bike. Don't buy Xiongda guys!

I'd measure up a bottle battery to see if it would fit it looks like it could be tight but doesnt look too small to me.