Robbieg

Why front hub drive? Would you not consider crank drive ie shimano, Bosch, Yamaha or Brose? There are a few that use the Nexus 7 or 8 hub gear; maybe the Raleigh Motus might be what your looking for, it's large size frame should fit you nicely.

About 78 miles completed up to now over varied terrain from lanes to rough track and canal towpaths. First impressions are that this bike is really comfortable and capable over most surfaces. The wheels and tyre size copes well with tracks and uneven surfaces and is reassuring when suddenly coming upon potholes or broken tarmac, as the bike feels rock solid at all times. The frame seems to primarily resemble an mtb but the handlebar shape enables an upright position which enhances good control, a relaxed shoulders and neck, and by experimenting with saddle height /angle an efficient riding position was found pretty quickly. The 10 speed shimano deore gears change faultlessly as is par for the course with this well proven set up. However the 15 tooth sprocket at the front means the ratios are on the low side and when riding on the road the 3 highest gears (3 smallest cogs) are mostly used. But this is suited to the Xroads remit because as a do it all bike the ratios are also great for those steep and rutted tracks that are becoming more popular amongst some cyclists in an effort to get away from heavy trafficked areas. The Samedi Xroad differs from the Friday model by the latter having a 22 tooth front sprocket and therefore ratios are more suited to road use primarily, but both models seem really well made and capable. I would be interested to know if I may be able to change the handlebar stem to the one on the Friday model as it has a quick release and the ability to change the bar position by 90 degrees, making it easier to store in the shed. Today I rode economically in ECO and achieved 19 miles on mixed surfaces before the first 20% bar disappeared. This equates to around 95 miles per full charge, but in real terms will probably be less. But even if I could achieve around 75 miles from the 500 watt/hr battery then if I carried the other battery from my R and M bike with me, I could possibly achieve around 150 miles under favourable conditions on a long run. This is the advantage of not having an intube battery type for me when choosing a second bike. Really pleased with the Moustache Samedi Xroad, hopefully this will continue and my choice to buy this type of bike instead of one more orientated to the road will prove to be the right one. More about the reasons for that choice at another time, until then bye for now.

Hi all, made a purchase a couple of days ago, taking advantage of dealer offers on 2019 ebikes as they make way for next year's new stock. The Moustache Samedi Xroad, slightly different from my normal choice in that it's a do anything bike but more Mtb orientated in its frame design. Have only covered about 10 miles up to now making slight changes to handlebar and saddle positioning, swapped saddle out for the Brooks Flyer, basically a B17 with springs. Will see how I go on with this bike and report back but early signs are that it's a really nicely built machine.

Okay and many thanks for the reply

Hi Sally, have noticed your advert for the Tinker City for sale and wondered if it has sold? I am enquiring for a friend of mine who is looking for his first ebike and likes the Tinker as he has already tried mine .(I have one of the same colour). Also we live close to you so would be easy to view, I live at Burton and my mate lives at Barton under Needwood. Hope to hear back from you soon. Regards Rob.

Don't think there's that many people that have the luxury of a garden with a shed in London.

Go for one of Haibikes Trekking models, they are great do it all ebikes, good quality very durable and comfortable.

Hi and welcome, am just down the road at Burton.

Yes I,m sure you,ll think it's worth it as the miles go on, it's similar to buying a car, washing machine or dishwasher etc, they are all great when new but it's how they are functioning in 3 or 5 years time that really counts!

We have two R and M Tinkers, yes R and M ebikes are more expensive than some other brands but they are particularly well made with quality components and good quality control during manufacture. This equates to a better ride experience and therefore may be thought of as being better value for money if the initial outlay is possible. Yes you will think

Thule as well, two bike carrier onto towball, worth the money, safe and secure.

The ebike will be better for the work commute though because you won't need to shower when you get there.

Yes, we live around about an hour from Worcester, but it is a lovely city and nice countryside around about with interesting historical houses. There's the Cotswolds nearby, but can get busy on the roads due to Birmingham not too far away. One of my favourite counties for cycling is Northumberland, great scenery, sparsely populated and the only county without a motorway running through it!

Onbike at Worcester. Have Tinkers in stock. Relaxed environment and good service. Hope the neck pain eases soon.

Picked the orange Tinker up on Wednesday for MrsG, looks smashing! First run out this morning, me with a head cold and MrsG with an aching back. Did 19 miles in the sunshine with the obligatory tea stop, bikes running beautifully. Thoroughly cleaning seat post seems to have solved slippage problem, and Mrs g loves the Enviolo hub and vowed never to go back to conventional derraillier gears. Also likes the new emtb mode. So far, so good!

Will be interested to know how you get on with the Tinkers over time, will you start a post in the review section? I must admit that despite dealers saying they sell lots of Tinkers I've never seen any others when out and about. Where about a in the country are you?

Hi and glad you're pleased with your Tinkers. Saddles are such personal things and I shall be putting my favourite Brooks leather one on the blue bike after tomorrow. The seat post on the blue one was also shortened by the dealer when supplied to ensure it would lower enough. However when I ride it I have the seat post a lot higher and as a result I,m finding that it slips down a little after a few miles. This might be due to there being less of the post in the frame, and my weight being a lot more at 94 kilos. Ile have a chat with the dealer when I pick up the orange bike tomorrow to see if he has had experienced this problem on other Tinkers. I will take the seat post along to compare the difference in length between it and the one on the new bike. I might consider swapping them to try the longer one at the higher height to see if it solves the slipping issue. If not I may have to consider changing the seat clamp or possibly adding a shim if that doesn't work. Have you experienced any problems in this area?

Keep it up!!

Hi dcb, have you taken delivery of Tinkers yet? If so how you getting on with them? You got me thinking that maybe my wife's blue tinker might be a bit lonely as Tinkers are better in pairs, so purchased an orange Vario model, picking it up Wednesday. The orange colours is my wife,s favourite so I've inherited the blue one which has the derraillier set up and Jen is looking forward to the variable hub gear set up. Hope you're both enjoying yours?

Check out the Moustache brand, really nice and French made, nicely shaped bars and comfortable positioning. Ebikes cheating? Definitely not! Just a natural evolution of the bicycle!

Hi Matthew, yes would be interesting to.know if you eventually chose the R and M Tinker, sounds perfect for your needs. We have a Tinker in the family, my wife's bike but I don't need much persuading to take it out when she is not using it. Both Haibike and R and M are good quality, but I was unable to source the Haibike Radius Tour when considering it. The forum is great for hearing others views and together with riding as many brandls as possible, it makes it easier to make a decision. But as the title goes, 'It's not just about the bike' , it's about the back up as well, and in my opinion, R and M go that extra mile to make sure you,re happy with your purchase. Like lots of well made and well designed products the quality is quite often realised after of period of time and when a few miles are on the clock. I have found the Tinker has proved itself well over both short and longer rides, both with light and heavier loads over varied terrain. As a commuting tool in the city the Tinker will be a delight to use and even though a possible overkill for the job, so what? It is a joy to own and you would probably want to take it much further as time goes on.

Have ridden our Tinker on bridleways, canal towpaths and gravel paths with no problems at all. The wheels are very strong and the tyres do a great job. The longest day ride on the road was 110 miles with panniers, and it handled really well, solid on the road even on fast downhills. I did have a Brooks Flyer saddle fitted though which I prefer to the stock saddle. Great quality machine. We have a Azure blue colour model, paint really tough and looks great, The orange colour is also well nice. Don't think you will have any regrets, have you taken delivery yet?

Great choice, my wife loves hers, and I like riding it too! It's a quality machine, solid and well balanced, nice upright position

Great report Dave, always good to hear when someone rediscovers cycling and becomes enthusiastic again. It's a great interest and there,s some great kit out there that's both practical and safe. Getting out for a ride helps you unwind and become more mindful, apart from the obvious physical benefits of a regular low intensity exercise. Sounds a great choice of ebike. Keep it up, it will become even more enjoyable as Springtime gets nearer and the evenings become lighter!

A very good point