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I hope D8ve is not older than me. I will hit 70 next year. Nobody deserves to be older than that I do believe however that the Giant Road or it's new generation replacements will keep me cycling until I am 80. I can imagine an e-bike for the road weighing in at 12kilo, with a range of 140 miles and all removable batteries concealed in the frame - in about 3 years from now. I can imagine a not-so-fit cyclist repeating a stage of La Tour the day after and replicating the time that Froome set the day before. The big changes for off-road were a few years back. The big changes for road are just around the corner.

This Giant Road bike in the avatar is hardly slower on the straight and actually faster downhill than my 8.8Kilo Boardman Carbon Road. In American spec it does 26mph and faster in Canada. If I was to mod it to match American spec or faster then I would be liable to punitive action by the police. I also have a 12 year old Honda that has averaged 172 miles a year for all of those 12 years. Assuming 46 working weeks a year then your commute would put 18,400 miles on the Honda. It is possible on a 750 BMW and with a max five year work life but on a small motorbike or pedelec - no chance. Repairs, maintenance and servicing/parts depreciation would be the same price as a season ticket. Not to mention what it would do to you covering that distance on a bleak, icy, winters night.

I would like to see "on-the-spot" fines introduced whereby police officers could take out a credit card reader and debit £30 from the account of anyone who rides on the pavements. Failure to pay would result in the confiscation of the bike and the cyclist would be told they need to pay £60 cash when they collect the bike. National publicity of this law and some more "pub talk" would put an end to pavement cycling in a month. And if my motorbike insurance costs £68 a year why should compulsory bike insurance of say £25 to £35 a year trouble me.

"wanton and furious cycling" only applies if an injury is suffered. And by injury, the law means serious injury or death as a direct result of the cyclists actions. Your friend should have challenged the accusation. "National" speed limits only apply to "motor" vehicles. Not to non-electric pedal cycles. Local bylaws mean that there is an 8mph speed limit on Hampstead Heath and a 20mph speed limit in Richmond Park. We are all weary of the tiresome personal claim TV adverts by Slater & Gordon but they summarise cycling law and speed as well as anyone https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media-centre/blog/2015/06/can-cyclists-break-the-speed-limit-or-does-the-law-only-apply-to-motorists/ Incidentally, if I was doing 8mph I would probably fall off

A typical human torso and a bike combined do not have enough mass to trigger the sensor on the speed camera. I never saw it "flash" as I passed but it got me twice in my car.

I have the Road E +1 My chainset is 50/34T. The rear cassette is Ultegra 11 so I rarely need the larger chain wheel. Since Giant offer all kinds of combinations across mountain, hybrid, city and road - an option would be to go to a Giant dealer if there is one within reach, and getting the exact size you require. That way you can be sure it is manufactured to e-bike spec.

It was without pedals or motor. The motor on my e-road bike is governed to Euro standards so at the bottom of the hill I was free-wheeling. I have done it on every bike I have owned and been in the mid forties and once in a high gear managed 53. It is a 30 limit and there is a speed camera at the bottom of the hill I tried the Giant on "power" setting for the first time this morning climbing a really steep hill. My cycling buddy is 24 years younger on the BMC Gran Fondo 01 and I left him standing. Really enjoying owning this bike.

That was my point. I bought the Giant Road bike for the 500Wh battery, 80Nm of torque and the unassisted performance. I want range and not speed. Thanks for the replies

Forget that. I have just figured it out.

As above

I just bought the Giant Road E+1 which is governed to 15.6 mph but 26mph in the USA and much faster in Canada. But the UK spec means it only provides assistance to 15.6mph. I recorder 44mph downhill this morning If I wanted assistance all the way up to 44mph then I could buy this https://www.ebiketuning.com/greenped.html Specifically for the Yahmaha SynchDrive Sport motor. But it would be illegal on the public roads and I am not sure I need to enhance what is already blistering performance. I still want an aerobic workout from my bike and just need something to flatten the hills. I already have a BMW convertible and a motorbike. The Giant allows me to join the club cyclists and still be part of the pack after 50 miles.