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Great thanks for putting my mind at rest.

its on both side as well

I have a new 905 torque for a few days and I noticed that there are welds on frame both sides between the chain. I have looked at a lot of other bikes since then and can't see any that have this weld. I just keep thinking that it's in a place where a pothole or a hard knock to the frame could cause it to fracture. can anyone tell me if this is normal? I don't remember seeing it on the previous 905 which I had swapped out and upgraded to the 2107 version.

Thanks for clarifying

the clips are like the ones circled in yellow at the top of the bag in the picture below

so I would clip the rockbros on the adapter then to the bar ? and it not to swap the bar off the rockbros with the adapter?

Can anyone recommend panniers that click onto the rack on a 905 torque I purchased some rockbros waterproof ones from fleebay, but the bar on the wisper is too fat to allow it to clip on. Is there an adapter bar i can get to add on to it, i don't really want to have to send the bags back to China

Thanks David Just had a call to say its ready. Apologies for being impatient

Still waiting for delivery, almost 2 weeks now, Anyone with experience of buying a wisper bike from their website, do they usually take this long to post out?

still waiting for the bike to come into the shop to cant post a review yet. Funny though, I had had 2 conversations with the shop whos going to receive the bike and set it up for me. On both occasions, they said "oh the one on finance, no not seen it yet" I feel like a right dodgy gezzah, is that frowned upon with bike dealers then

Just got home from the game. Moose is doing very well, hardly ever puts a foot wrong, solid defender. Bradford equalised last 30 secs of injury time tonight, from a poor clearance, did not see whose fault it was though:(

Thank you David

Ahh the old Manor ground, sadly that's is gone, now in a breeze block ground, the shark house is still there though

Thanks will take a look, As an Oxford United fan, The yellow ones are tempting

Thanks, will ring them this morning. Btw what about a saddle bag, would that need an adapter?

due to take delivery of a mk1 2016 wipser 905 torque in a few days any recommendations for some cheap panniers bags preferably waterproof or shower resistant ??

i just wish i had thought of an electric bike before i sold my £1k hybrid bike for £250 to a mate, when i was drunk(took advantage of me) I could have converted it

Thank you I will upload some when I get it next week

ok no problem

looking forward to it just sent you an email regarding where i can collect the bike

In the end opted for a clearance bike from wisper, think there's one left now just cosmetic differences and they changed the sensor on it, i was told over the phone, bit over my price range but with all the kit on it, i thought why not Unused 2016 Mk 1 905 Torque with brand new battery £400 of this years model - Price with a 575 battery £1,399

sorry should have replied to you sooner I'm 5.8 13.5stone (should be12stone really) and 58 years young, not unfit as such do a fair bit of dog walking, but got a bit of a belly on me now since I stopped cycling a year ago

looking into it a bit more i think insurance wise its not worth the risk to get a 1000w for my first bike now looking at whisper as the do interest-free do these come recommended and can anyone tell me the difference between the 905 se and the 905 torque? apart from the price

Ok, why would a crank driven one make much difference, are all hub powered ones not very good then? I live in Oxford btw which is fairly flat in the centre Not trying to be argumentive, just trying to understand the tech

Hmm any thought on this dual power bike, seems nice to have an off road mode?? http://www.electric-bike-factory.co.uk/acatalog/cyclotricity_stealth_500w_dual_electric_bike.html Also at 5' 8" should i get a 17" frame or 20" ?