brandon98

Hi [mention=27203]All[/mention], to wrap things up - I went for the Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon evo with that green-ish color. Looks great even with the Specialized fenders mounted. It's fun to ride and I'm happy I made this decision. Thanks a lot!

[mention=17358]Amoto65[/mention] : May I ask how tall you are? I sat on the L and M version and on both i had the feeling that I sat 2 tads too dynamic. Didn't want the kind shop owner to switch or turn the stem to allow a more upright position. 5'10" - that's my height by the way.

This is the closest info that I could find in the Specialized manual: "Batteries have undercharge and overcharge protection, so that they can be charged/discharged as needed".

Here's what the Specialized manual says about temperatures: "Only operate the battery between the temperature range of -20°C (-4°F) and +60°C (+140°F)" ... "Only charge the battery at an ambient temperature between 0°C and +45°C (+32°F and 113°F). If outside temperatures are too hot or too cold, charge the battery inside. For safety reasons, if the battery is too hot or too cold, it will not charge."

In general? Black. But for the pedelecs: BLUE for the Grail:On and that "darker-whatever-color-it-is" for the Turbo Creo. Turns out the color's official Specialized name is Gloss Navy/White Mountains...

[mention=26306]richtea99[/mention]: Thanks a lot for that info! I'll have a closer look at what Specialized suggests.

It seems to me that the Grail:On is more suited to rougher terrain. I mean 50mm tyres on road sounds like there's something odd. But you do get that additional "suspension". And don't get me wrong - I'll use it primarily for trips to work and back home where the trip contains 70% smooth road and 30%... well whatever it is - it's not even fun to drive those by car. The Specialized is lighter, and more customizable in terms of cockpit tuning if needed. It has those 38mm tyres that are a perfect choice in combination with the Future Shock suspension. On top there are local Specialized retailers to support me if things go south for any reason. The internal battery might become a problem as soon as it gets cold outside (and in my basement compartment) as low temperatures are not battery friendly from what I heard. Tough choice (for me at least). But hey - the list of options got narrowed to 2 pedelecs. That was a rather long journey until now

Thanks for your replies! When I visited Canyon I tried literally EVERY Pedelec that was available (inkl. Pathlite:On and Precede:On). The Fazua enabled bikes were simply not as much fun IMHO. There was also that annoying clacking sound each time you re-start to actively push the pedals. This is no Canyon issue, I tried several Fazua Pedelecs, and it's just the design of that system. I also thought that the assistance on Fazua bikes only really kicks in at a specific speed. So when you start pedaling from 0 km/h there was not much of an assistance, but then - it kicked in. I was impressed by both: the Grail AL 7.0 (bio-bike) and the Grail:ON. Everything was perfect and all set to get the Grail:ON, but then I saw that Specialized Creo SL Evo... [mention=4809]vfr400[/mention]: I would rather avoid rear-hub motors as they technically don't benefit from the gear I'm currently in and tend to overheat in certain scenarios. It's going to be one of those 2 pedelecs... that's for sure I tend to go for Canyon. Thanks a lot for your feedback.

Hi, I'm planning to leave my car @home more often and commute to work via pedelec (that I don't own yet...). The idea is to travel to work (around 12 km - one way) with as much assistance as needed to NOT arrive all sweaty. On my way home I'd like to reduce the motor assist so I have some sort of workout to tweak my fitness (and hopefully lose some weight too). I tried both pedelecs, and they were both fun. I don't have a dedicated garage to charge the batteries, nor do I have the space @home to charge the pedelec there. The only option that I have (which may sound more awful than it actually is) is to carry the pedelec to my basement storage room and charge it there. With the grail I have the option to detach the battery - so that would be a pro on Canyon's account. I'd love to read about your opinions on this. Thanks a lot!