Pedematt

Hi Taff Could I ask you what you tink to the quality level of the components overall? When compared to say the KTM ecross p, on paper at least and for a bike that costs a few hundred pounds more (the bh vs ktm), the components are lower spec. This may be from the better r&d from having the integrated battery but I appreciate your thoughts Thanks Matt

Hi footloose It's good to know you are impressed with it. I read your post on the erace p. I'm just not sure about the mtb style over a cross type. And they are very difficult to get to test ride Thanks Matt

Hi David Have you seen the armpocket? It is a strap that fits round your arm and has more flexibility than being tied to a specific phone. Then when you change phones you don't need a new mount, might be safer than a mount as well. Matt

You only get about 2 hrs life from iPhone 4 running a GPS app like runtastic that I use. If someone rings you during the ride it hammers it.

Hi I posted this already but it didn't appear anyway... I wondered if anyone had a 2013 KTM ecross p, the one with the Panasonic hub motor, and wouldn't mind giving their impressions please? I can find a few reviews on the erace p and it reads well, but I thought the gearing looked a bit short on the mtb style for a commute Thanks Matt

I wondered if anyone had a KTM ecross p and wouldn't mind giving their thoughts on it. There isn't much informing on the web about this particular model. Quite a bit about the erace p but I think the gearing is a bit short for commuting on the mtb style Thanks Matt

Thanks for the info i4n. I will bear it in mind. I intend to pedal

Take a look at runtastic app for your phone. They do different flavours depending on what sports you do. It lets you download the open cycle maps for when you are out and about so you don't have to rely on 3G. Then when you have finished the route or exercise there are plenty of ways to analyse your speed and split times etc

+1 for hearing the 2013 bikes have no regen.

I tested the bh neo. I quite liked it to be honest. It was quite rapid at accelerating beyond 30kph. It wasn't a long test I had though. Next I want to try the KTM ecross p. it is a little cheaper than say the neo cross but appears to have better components. I also tried a different cycle route to work which was 11.7 miles in 50mins on my mountain bike so I definitely think 45mins is in reach on a ebike. I was a little tired though

thanks guys. i will take a look at the kalkhoffs. although the BS10 is probably too much for what i was looking to spend, the pro-connects is less. i read your review jonah, thanks for pointing out. it sounds like you have a good bike there thanks matt

Thanks David you are right and as some of the chaps above have pointed out, in order to average 16.5 you need to take advantage of any down bits. my mountain bike has 11T & 44T at the front and you have to pedal crazy to get to 30mph downhill. i wouldnt want to do that on a commute though.

Thanks for this freddy. I don't know why these sites don't come up when you search on google

Hi guys thanks for the replies. I definitely want to try anything before I buy. I hadn't realised 50cycles were in Loughborough, thanks for pointing it out. I thought 45mins wasn't too bad because when I had a go on a step through ebike it seemed quite easy to maintain 30kph (well according the the computer anyway) and if I can do the journey in 55mins unassisted and on a mountain bike then 16mph av didn't seem unreasonable. Thanks matt

Hi guys and girls i am looking into ebikes as a replacement for my motorbike, which i use for my commute into the centre of Nottingham. my journey is currently just under 12 miles and it takes me about 35mins. i have done the journey on my mountain bike with narrow trail tyres on occasion and it takes 55mins on the road. i need to be 45mins on the ebike which probably isnt unreasonable. there arent any really steep hills but it seems like it is gently uphill both ways if you were to ride it. there is a hill into town obviously as thats how Nottm is and a big ish hill to get home. if i was to get an ebike it has to be something that will get me to work every day. i carnt wimp out and catch the bus otherwise the wife, well she wouldnt be happy. i was initially interested in the bh neo race or cross. the race because i would have thought i could have maintained a higher speed but the cross because a route i thought i might take as an alternative to the road is probably 1 mile on roughish track and 2 or 3 on canal trail. but i carnt test the bh easily. in fact i carn't test many bikes because there doesnt appear to be many, if any, dealers close to nottm that sell ebike. so i wondered about narrowing the search down a bit and hoped you could help. i am looking for a bike for a 12 mile commute each way, i dont need a mountain bike and i am nervous about getting something like the KTM erace because of running out of gears like i do on my non ebike. something like the neo cross maybe. i am willing to spend £2000-£2500 because i will be replacing my motorbike. can you help thanks matt