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That's good news John. Thought I was going to have to order from overseas. Don't know anyone else in the UK who has these. The 7 speed is the biggest I can get in with the size of my motor. As soon as I work out how to get the old freewheel off, I will order one. The latest freewheel remover i just got, Park tool FR1.2 won't pass over the 14mm axle. The end where the spanner goes on reduces down to about 10mm. I think I will need to take it to a light engineering firm to get them to drill it out. It is hardened steel and my drill bit (ex drill bit) won't touch it. What do you use to get freewheels off when a 14mm axle is being used? Would a better quality drill bit go through hardened steel? Cheers John.

Cheers d8veh

Meant to say on previous post that I noticed Cyclotricity are selling a complete bike, similar to their Stealth, but with the 1000W rear motor conversion fitted. Selling for £1095. The kit is just under £800, so for anyone who doesn't want to get their hands dirty or doesn't feel confident fitting the kit, an extra £300 all fitted to a bike seems reasonable. I bought my bike for £200 (but it cost the previous owner £600), so I have got a better quality bike for around £1000. It has been a bit of a faff getting it how I want it, but I enjoy messing about with things so not a problem. Others may think it was a pain in the derriere.

Quick update. The kit is still working perfectly. It still impresses me every time I ride it. I am slowly upgrading the bike around the kit. Have upgraded the discs to 203mm for extra stopping power which also allows me to fit the rear caliper which now clears the motor, just. Have ordered a suspension seat post to take the worst out of pot holes and tree roots. I have got a better freewheel with a 13T lowest cog as the current 14T doesn't allow me to put any power into the pedals over about 22mph. I would rather have got an 11T but the lowest I could find in a freewheel (would have been no problem getting a cassette with 11T) was the 13T. If anyone knows where I could get lower than a 13T in a freewheel please let me know. I haven't fitted the new freewheel yet. I bought a freewheel remover but it would not fit over the 14mm axle. Tried drilling it oiut but it is hardened steel and just wrecked the drill bit. I have ordered a different one from Evans Cycles. It says it is a Park tool with thin walls so hopefully it will go over the 14mm axle.

Hi Elecman Kit cost just under £800 with the 1000watt motor, 48volt 11 amp motor and the LCD display (which you need do deresrict the kit). The kit itself is well made and all the connectors are colour coded so you literally cannot go wrong. I had a few installation problems mentioned earlier, but none due to the kit itself. As I said earlier, out of the box in the restricted mode, with a good level of PAS assistance and averaging 18mph I got 40 miles from the first charge. I am 72kg ant this was mostly on the flat with some smallish hills. I didn't break sweat to achieve this. As an experiment, I set it in derestricted mode on a full charge. I had the PAS on level 4, which meant it was accelerating hard from slow speed up to about 23mph and once cruising I was only turning the pedals to keep the PAS activated so it was pretty much all motor and very little me. I drained the battery in 20, fun filled miles. Because of my gearing, I cannot actually pedal the bike faster than 22mph. My smallest rear sprocket is 14T on the freewheel. I have looked everywhere for an 11T or 12T freewheel but they don't seem to be made anymore now that cassettes have pretty much taken over. I have managed to find a freewheel with a 13T sprocket and have ordered that. For commuting my 10 mile round journey, mainly on the flat, the restricted mode happily does 20 mph and in PAS level 4 there isn't much pedalling involved and 40 miles per charge is impressive. I have a physical job, on my feet a lot of the day so I don't need the exercise of cycling. This is purely transport for me and means I have a 15 minute ride instead of a £3.60 30 minute train journey. Butttttt.....at the weekend, derestricted and on private land, it really is FUN. I would recommend the kit to anyone who wanted a relatively easy install (for a rear drive kit), and a years warranty. I am sure if you were an expert like d8veh, or with his advice, you could do a similar build for a good few hundred pounds less though.

Hi Hi Phil Just this second resolved my rear brake problem. I ordered a 203mm disc and an adaptor bracket and I can now, by about 1mm, get my calliper on. Very pleased. My brakes are hydraulic and are quite strong, so can haul me down pretty quickly. I see yours are cable pull callipers, so they won't be as strong. I know what you mean about upgrading the bike. The kit is worthy of a good bike. Mine's just about ok for the moment, but I'm sure it won't be long before I start looking to upgrade either the whole bike, or some of the components. Like you I am VERY impressed with the kit. It is a joy getting on it in the morning and going to work!

Have had the derestriction info from Cyclotricity. Bike accelerates a LOT faster. Reached about 29 mph on the flat on just the throttle (on private land). Couldn't pedal fast enough on the pedal assist. The freewheel has a 14 tooth on the smallest spocket. Will change it as soon as I can for one with 11T. I have to say I am really pleased with the kit. In the restricted mode, from full charge to dead battery, using lots of max throttle and PAS setting 4 and 5, I did over 40 miles. The bike weighs in at about 24Kg. I am 73Kg. Over that period I averaged over 18 mph with VERY light pedalling or no pedalling. On my commute, which is a 13 mile round trip on mainly flat smooth surface, I have to say the restricted mode is more than adequate. I estimate in unrestricted mode, and using full power a lot of the time, the range would be down to about 20 (exciting) miles. It really does accelerate hard up to its max speed. Maybe the 500 watt kit would have been a good compromise. I have never used a front hub motor as this is my first ebike, but I think I would prefer this rear drive solution, especially with this extra power. Fitting the rear kit would definitely be more involved than a front hub which I imagine is relatively straight forward in comparison. Torque arms are a must, and I am still to resolve my lack of rear brake, although I have plans!! I leave the house at the same time as I used to drive to the station, and get to work 15 minutes earlier, and not at all tired or sweaty. Have yet to see rain though. Will keep records of battery life over the next few days and give a more accurate assessment on range. Up to now, I am loving my new ebike. Hope the sun keeps shining.

Finally got on the road for a quick test, albeit without a rear brake. All worked well, throttle without pedalling on the flat got to 20mph before maxing out. Pedal assist also got to about 21 mph before cutting out. Max speed in the settings within the LCD is showing at 72mph so it is obviously restricted somewhere else. Accidentally found some other settings within the LCD of P1, P2, P3, P4, P5. These all had a different number against them. Possibly they have some bearing on the power/speed limit. Does anyone know what these P settings do? Obviously on the Cyclotricity web site it says you have to contact them to get the derestriction code and sign a disclaimer to say you will only use the de restricted mode on private land, so will be contacting Rami at Cyclotricity to see what I need to do. Will keep everyone updated.

Hi Phil You got yours fitted a lot quicker than I have. Looks great and really neatly done.I'm not sure about the derestrict. When I set the parameters in the LCD it showed the max speed as 72 mph I think, so I have left it at that for now. I am nearly there now, just struggling with the rear brake caliper. Haven't got the clearance for the calliper between the disc and the motor. My caliper is hydraulic but I notice yours is a cable pull type. Did you have any problem with the calliper clearance? Has your calliper got a makers name or model number on it? I will probably get a cable pull calliper anyway so I can use the electric cut off brake lever that came with the kit. Will let you know how fast mine goes on the flat and how it climbs, bearing in mind I am a little lighter (12 stone) than your good self. d8veh has described how I may be able to get the calliper to fit with spacers and slight frame widening but I would prefer to do it with a slimmer calliper if possible. Keep us informed on how you get on Phil.

Torque arms arrived today. Excellent quality. Actually managed to fit them to both sides of bike without much difficulty. Quickly connected up the battery, controller, LCD and throttle with the bike upside down for a quick systems check. Worked straight away. Full throttle indicated 61 kph, 38 mph. Haven't set the wheel size or other paramaters in the LCD yet so bit meaningless. Now I know it all appears to be working, will get the most puncture proof tyre and tube I can because I don't feel like dismantling the back end including torque arms etc in the middle of nowhere in the rain. Anyone got any recommendations for a really good puncture resistant tyre and tube please.

What can I say. Amazon confirm items dispatched. Thanks again.

Brilliant. Thanks.

Thanks for all that info d8veh. Wouldn't have thought about widening the frame. Scared it may have snapped. I have ordered 2 torque arms from Cycleeze via amazon. If Cycleeze could give them a hurry up it would be appreciated....... Unfortunately the build is now on hold until Monday as I need to fix a leaking flat roof over the weekend. Boo. Can't do much until the torque arms arrive anyway. Enjoy your bikes while the sun is shining.

On another note (problem), with the disc connected to the wheel, there is only about a 12mm gap between the side of the motor and the disc, but the calliper is over 20mm from the brake pad back towards the motor, so no way will it fit. I doubt there is a calliper on the market that is less than 12mm wide from pad to edge of calliper. Obviously this is due to the width and diameter of the 1000w motor, but I don't think anyone will be able to use a disc with this option. The problem I now have is that because this bike is designed to use a disc, there aren't any lugs to fit V brakes...........so no back brake!!! Any suggestions?

Yep, 14mm axle and 10mm across the flat. Just noticed the derailleur hangs off an insert that overlaps part of the dropout, so don't really want to file too much off that, the other side could easily have 3 or 4 mm filed into it, but can't do one without the other!! The entire axle fits (just) inside the dropouts and would be clamped pretty well with the large 25mm wide nut that goes on the axle. With the axle sitting in the dropouts, there is only about 1mm space between the shoulder of the axle and the inside of the dropout, so no space for torque washers (or any washer) on inside of dropouts. Do you think if I put a torque arm on both sides of the axle, this would be sufficient?

Will check when I get home d8veh. I know the flat sides go in to the dropouts ok, although as you have mentioned in other posts, it doesn't go in as far as the QR axle, and the torque washer tab will sit outside the dropout. Bit of filing required possibly, although there is a nice flat bit of frame to tighten the nut up to. If I use the torque arms, could I give the torque washer a miss?

Couple of torque arms required I think. Are the Cycleeze still the ones to go for?

Thanks for that d8veh. That was the only thing niggling me. Everything else seems to be in the kit.

Hi Phil Kit has arrived today. Ordered Friday so no complaints there. As mentioned earlier the motor and wheel are heavy, about 8Kg. There must be a lot of windings in there. All the wiring appears custom made with all connectors colour coded so even I can't get it wrong. Haven't had time to have a good look at it all yet but first impressions are good. I promised d8veh a full report on what exactly came with the kit, which I will do as soon as I can. Only slight query on initial looking is that there doesn't appear to be a speed sensor, so not sure how the LCD display will know how fast it is going. The LCD appears to connect straight to the controller and there isn't anywhere on the LCD to connect a speed sensor wire to. Maybe d8veh my cast some light on it. Kind of thinking the 1000w may have been overkill and that the 500w with the 36v 15 amp battery would have done the job, but the proof of the pudding is in the pedalling, so we will see. Will keep you all updated.

Will do d8veh. Will hopefully arrive middle of next week.

Just joined yesterday but have been on the site most days looking for pearls of wisdom. Took me a month to decide to convert my giant Talon 2 rather than buy a complete bike. Has now taken another month to decide which kit to go for. Would have definitely gone the BMS battery route if it wasn't for my own ineptitude. I'm actually not that bad with a spanner but ultimately wanted something that was hopefully going to be straightforward. NEARLY ordered an Oxydrive yesterday as the price has currently dropped from £829 to £699. This morning I fell on a post on this site about the Cyclotricity rear drive 500W and 1000W kit. The thread had some concerns over the legality of using this kit. The primary reason I will be using the bike is to commute to work. Only 5 miles each way on the flat along a tarmac trail along the river Taff. All off road. Any of the 250W kits would have been fine for this. However, at the weekend I do get off road into the beautiful Welsh HILLS, hills being the optimum word. This Cyclotricity option of being able to 'restrict' the setup for the commute and then unleashing serious hill climbing potential for the off roady bits at the weekend seemed like a perfect answer. I have ordered the 1000W (in for a penny) with the 48V/11amp frame battery. I may well be asking for some fitting assistance very soon, although I am hoping Cyclotricity will be there as well should I encounter any problems (have heard good things about their support in the past). I will definitely be putting a post on here once it is up and running to give others some feedback on this new kit. Fingers crossed that the spanner gods are smiling on me!!! I will not be going more than the legal limit on the commute, there are too many other people, dogs, cyclists about to even contemplate it. I am not sure how the restriction works, power reduction or speed limit. I think the law restricts speed and power. If it was just limited to a maximum speed, then you could use the extra power to climb hills at the legal speed limit. The limitation of the 250 watt motor is that it is fine to reach 15 mph on the flat, but up a steep hill you would drop down to 7 or 8 mph, even if you were pretty fit. I think it would be safer if cyclists could maintain an even speed. Motorists may be happy to sit behind a bike doing 15 mph while they wait for a safe time to overtake, but if the cyclists speed suddenly drops to 5 mph due to an incline, the motorist will get impatient pretty quickly and may attempt to overtake before it is totally safe to do so. Rather than risk a head on with another car, he is more likely to squeeze the cyclist into the kerb. Would love to hear what others think and if anyone else has fitted this new Cyclotricity kit yet.

Hi d8veh Just joined yesterday but have been on the site most days looking for pearls of wisdom. Took me a month to decide to convert my giant Talon 2 rather than buy a complete bike. Has now taken another month to decide which kit to go for. Would have definitely gone the BMS battery route if it wasn't for my own ineptitude. I'm actually not that bad with a spanner but ultimately wanted something that was hopefully going to be straightforward. NEARLY ordered an Oxydrive yesterday as the price has currently dropped from £829 to £699. This morning I fell on this thread about the Cyclotricity rear drive 500W and 1000W kit. The primary reason I will be using the bike is to commute.to work. Only 5 miles each way on the flat along a tarmac trail along the river Taff. All off road. Any of the 250W kits would have been fine for this. However, at the weekend I do get off road into the beautiful Welsh HILLS, hills being the optimum word. This Cyclotricity option of being able to 'restrict' the setup for the commute and then unleashing serious hill climbing potential for the off roady bits at the weekend seemed like a perfect answer. I should have run this by you first really...............but, I was too excited and have ordered the 1000W (in for a penny) with the 48V/11amp frame battery. I may well be in touch for some fitting assistance very soon, although I am hoping Cyclotricity will be there as well should I encounter any problems (have heard good things about there support in the past). I will definitely be putting a post on here once it is up and running to give others some feedback on this new kit. Fingers crossed that the spanner gods are smiling on me!!!