May 4, 201510 yr Re the manufacturers plate, as far as I am concerned, they must be fitted to all bikes sold as of 6th April 2015. Inevitably there will be some "illegal" sales, that of all existing stock at dealers and distributors. I'd expect that to continue for a very long time before all are cleared maybe more than a year. Once again our civil service have been neglectful, EU measures have a period of grace to allow for such clearances. The six months grace given by the type approval legislation 2002/24/EC for example, and the DfTs amendments to the UK EAPC law should have included a time allowance for existing stock clearances. .
May 4, 201510 yr I agree it's a mess Tony, And we still don't have a definitive instruction on whether or not throttles to 25k/h are legal in the UK or indeed if they ever have been! I am bringing in the new Wispers with throttle to 4mph just in case. However I am also bringing in extra controllers that will allow throttles to 15.5mph if people should want the facility. Our civil servants really don't make it easy! Al the best David
May 4, 201510 yr I am bringing in the new Wispers with throttle to 4mph just in case. That's wise in the circumstances David. The DfT say they will regard full throttle e-bikes as legal if they conform in all other respects, just so long as they have been type approved as required by EU regulation 168/2013. It apparently hasn't dawned on them that this introduces a legal conflict. 168/2013 excludes bureacracy free pedelecs from being subject to that motor vehicles law, yet they are claiming that conforming to this law that does not apply makes an e-bike legal as an exempted pedelec. Some convoluted thought processes there! .
May 4, 201510 yr We are talking to the DfT through the MCIA and BA at the moment, they have said they will give us a definite instruction re throttles "soon". As you say, at the moment they are asking us to conform to a TA that does not exist! I would guess that throttles will be OK until 1st Jan 2016 when EN15194 comes in. At that time hopefully there will be a class we can work to. A question was asked by of the Under Secretary of State for Transport a few weeks ago, it was her opinion that any ebike with a throttle should be type approved as an LS1 to be legal. Confused? Absolutely... Best regards David
May 4, 201510 yr On the plane for Shanghai now David, if we see you there we will get you a pint All the best Andrew
May 4, 201510 yr On the plane for Shanghai now David, if we see you there we will get you a pint All the best Andrew And I should have been with you except for the Lufthansa bar stewards double booking my seat.
May 4, 201510 yr Holly ... Dave I will wait for you at Pudong airport. all the best Andrew Edited May 4, 201510 yr by OXYDrive
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