Hi David, you are welcome. I had great fun on the 905e Sport and out of the other bikes I looked at the time of purchase I thought they offered good value and were certainly better built than others viewed. The dealer network also was an advantage for servicing and spares that I may have needed. Pity my supplying dealer, Greased Lightning Bikes closed down though.

 

I've spoken to its new owner of the Wisper and he is delighted and is now selling his current eBike.

 

I will also say that the battery used in the 905e seems to have excellent longevity. It had no degradation in in capacity to hold charge over the years of use and never ran out of charge during riding.

 

May I ask do you do a Wisper rack for the 905e Sport? The new owner needs one and it may be better than all the aftermarket variants offered.

Edited April 24, 20179 yr by K22MDL

What appeals to me is the network for warranty rather than Joe blogs round the corner flogging Chinese imports to make a quick buck, seems electric bikes attract the likes of the solar panel and home insulation salesmen brigade, jumping on band wagons to fleece people of their hard earned with a warranty that lasts until they are off the property

 

We certainly don't all fall into this category, Wisper has been around for more than 12 years. Our bikes are made in Kunshan, we look after our customers for as long as they have the Wisper bike. Please read above, an old Wisper is worth more than 60% of the price of a new BMW.

 

All the best, David

May I ask do you do a Wisper rack for the 905e Sport? The new owner needs one and it may be better than all the aftermarket variants offered.

 

No problem, ask him to give us a call.

 

I am delighted he is enjoying the bike!

 

All the best, David

I did have a chuckle on here reading posters perceptions of BMW as a bike manufacturer i

 

Hmmm! I think you're missing the gist of what was meant. BMW now make some very nice motorbikes, but they were very conservative prior to the mid 90's. It took a long time for them to realise that innovation was the way forward. Their first attempts at inline 3 and 4 cylinder bikes was a bit of a disaster, but since then, they've been pretty good. Anyway, whatever they did or didn't do with motorcycles is completely irrelevant because I don't believe for one moment that they make any bicycles in their own factories. There's no BMW motor in your bicycle, neither does it have innovative BMW forks, nor a proprietary BMW slick-shift gearbox, nor any other component made by BMW other than maybe the badge.

You truly are the font of all knowledge Dave!

 

All the best, David

I did have a chuckle on here reading posters perceptions of BMW as a bike manufacturer inferring they are "Old School". They are total innovators in Motorbike design and were the first to bring ABS, anti-slide, anti-wheelie and goodness knows what else.

 

Their in-line 4-cylinder engines are one of the finest (and most powerful) designs in any bike and the S1000R rewrote the rulebook when it was introduced some 5 years ago. It decimated every other manufacturer in racing too. Yes, I was in the trade for years but not lucky enough to own a BMW franchise.

 

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Anyway, to the Cruise. Bought one at a silly discounted price of just £1650 from a BMW dealer. Sold my old Wisper 905e Sport for £1000 so it was a no brainer to upgrade.

 

It is well built, looks in my opinion very modern and puts many others bikes in the shadows. I doubt they sell many at the moment. If they were serious about the bicycle market you would see them in adverts on TV, in the cycle magazines etc. As cycling gains more momentum, (no pun intended), I bet BMW will start to promote their range and grab a large slice of the market. After all, they have been around more than most and I guarantee they will be around longer than 90% of the "brand of the week" in the cycling world.

 

And another thing, yes, it's great to ride, the brakes are exceptional for the bikes weight, the power assistance is linear and efficient and nothing has fallen off. I also get repeated comments on what a lovely looking bike it is. I agree.

 

Did they throw the i8 in as a sweetener?

There's no BMW motor in your bicycle, neither does it have innovative BMW forks, nor a proprietary BMW slick-shift gearbox, nor any other component made by BMW other than maybe the badge.

 

Agreed with the comment, but I'd rather have a big player in automotive transport like BMW behind the brand I use, rather than the (relative) unknown. The quality of components they have chosen are good, with arguably the best 'motor' in the right place to power it. Nowt wrong with that. When I look at other eBikes, I generally see indifferent quality of chosen fittings and brands I've never heard of, usually imported by a small company in the U.K., (if you're lucky). Great whilst they are here, but not so clever when they are not.

 

I still maintain that £1650 for a bike assembled and manufactured to the Cruise eBike standard of parts, 2-year warranty and sporting a BMW badge, will always have a wider appeal and therefore attract a better resale value at a future date. It rides and stops beautifully too.

 

Like Sony with their first digital cameras in the nineties, look where they are now. Hitting Canon, Nikon and others right where it hurts. If BMW really wanted to, they would and could be a major player in bicycle manufacture. Maybe the margin and volume just aren't compelling enough investment for them.

 

BMW have been making very decent in-line fours since 1996 with the brilliantly put together K1200RS. Before then, you're right, they were an oddity at best.

Did they throw the i8 in as a sweetener?

You guessed! The i3 I use I had to pay for too.

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I had one of these . It was totally useless. Every time I started it after using the side-stand, the whole neighbourhood disappeared under a cloud of smoke. The bike hadn't even done 1000 miles. It has some fancy adjustable slatted screen, but no matter what position I put it in, the noise and turbulence above 50 mph was unbearable. A couple of your later, I bought an old R75, which was OK, but a bit like a tractor, then I bought a R100RT, but the crankshaft oil seal started leaking, which made the clutch slip at full throttle. That's a very difficult repair - total engine strip. I'm not a fan of BMWs. I've had my Honda NTV650 for 13 years now. It's the most reliable bike in the world. I've done nothing more than change the oil, filter tyres and brake pads in that time.

 

Don't count on your resale value being any higher. All the bikes I've seen with car badges on them have been very cheap. They don't sell, which is probably why you got your cheap.

I had one of these . It was totally useless. Every time I started it after using the side-stand, the whole neighbourhood disappeared under a cloud of smoke. The bike hadn't even done 1000 miles. It has some fancy adjustable slatted screen, but no matter what position I put it in, the noise and turbulence above 50 mph was unbearable.

 

Don't count on your resale value being any higher. All the bikes I've seen with car badges on them have been very cheap. They don't sell, which is probably why you got your cheap.

 

Useless? You must have bought a lemon. I bought one new one and another after I sold it purchasing a new 1150RT. The screen wasn't high enough I agree but easily sorted with an add on that mounted on top. An oversight for BMW, but hardly categorising it useless.

 

I too have had many Honda's, the last, a new VFR1200. Beautifully made and reliable. Like the BMW's I've owned. Didn't hold its value like the BMW's though. Only one Honda in my collection I should have kept, an RC30. Would be worth triple the money today.

 

I will count 100% on getting more for the bike when it comes to resale time than an 'unknown'. I know how to sell. Witness the Wisper.....

Edited April 27, 20179 yr by K22MDL

Has anybody tried newer version of the bike with Brose motor?

https://www.bikeradar.com/commuting/news/article/bmw-e-bike-51151/

https://www.bikeradar.com/commuting/news/article/bmw-e-bike-51151/

I googled that earlier, thanks, I meant anybody from the forum..

At £2500 its cheaper than the Specialized Vado which is very similar.

At £2500 its cheaper than the Specialized Vado which is very similar.

 

And it's £1695 if you buy from one of the BMW dealers that list them on ebay.

At that price it seems a steal.....whats not to like ? Or am I missing something?

At that price it seems a steal.....whats not to like ? Or am I missing something?

I used the exact same phrase "What's not to like?" over here:

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/bmw-active-hybrid-e-bike-2017-2018.30384/#post-422382

 

It turns out quite a lot apparently. :-)

 

I have ridden a Specialized Vado and was very impressed with it - so if this is similar ride experience for 50% of the cost I would think it's worth shortlisting at least.

Has anybody tried newer version of the bike with Brose motor?

Hi yes I’ve had mine for about two years now. Ridden about 4000 miles on it.The Brose motor is brilliant. Climbing hills is a joy with the 90nm of torque. My wife has a cube with 70nm of torque and the difference is very noticeable on the hills.

Ive only changed the rear cassette and chain once although the chain is due to be changed again soon.

I had battery issues when I first bought the bike but the BMW dealer replaced the battery under warranty

I regularly ride a 40 mile hilly circuit and usually have a full bar of power left except in winter when it’s a bit colder

The furtherest I ridden on a full charge was 60 miles, there was still charge left after but I wouldn’t think there was too much more.

After having it for two years it’s still looks as good as the day I got it