I'm wondering if such a bike exists.

 

I understand the Wisper Torque has a setting that allows you to skip the torque functionality and use the cadence mechanism. However, as far as I know, it does not have a throttle.

 

Is there an e-bike out there that has the three functionalities?

It does have a throttle that can be used if your turning the pedals. That's a legal requirement. But I think it can be changed to work without the pedals. If you know how.

Thanks Crockers, that about sums it up.

 

All the best, David

It does have a throttle that can be used if your turning the pedals. That's a legal requirement. But I think it can be changed to work without the pedals. If you know how.

Excellent bike

I have a Wisper 705 Torque - it does indeed have a throttle on the left grip. It will power the bike up to 4 mph without any other input (it's a walk-assist, useful when you're wheeling the bike around anywhere). If you're on the bike, you just need to keep the pedals turning and twisting the throttle will get the motor to do the work.

 

I'd recommend test riding, you'll soon figure out how the different modes feel and whether it's likely to meet your needs.

 

If you're looking for something with a "twist and go" throttle, you won't find it off the shelf on a brand new bike because of legislation changes at the start of this year, regardless of what kind of sensor it has. As Crockers says though, I believe many bikes can have the default settings overridden if you know how (and this forum is probably a source of info should you need it!).

Are you sure you're not suffering from too much internet research?

 

I can understand the need for a throttle. I have one and find it very useful at times.

 

Why would you want a torque and cadence sensor? Both have advantages and disadvantages. I would say that a torque sensor could be better for difficult off-road riding and cadence sensor is better for normal riding. Some cadence sensor systems are rubbish and so are some torque sensor systems. Cadence systems have improved over the years and most on modern bikes are pretty good. I have one on my bike and wouldn't want anything else.

As always the best advice is to try a few bikes with different options. I believe the set up on the Wisper Torque bikes gives a rider the best of all worlds. There is no doubt that when setting off at traffic lights or starting on a hill a good torque sensor is a massive advantage.

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There is no doubt that when pulling off at traffic lights or stating on a hill a good torque sensor is a massive advantage.

 

Not when you have a throttle!

 

How about a race? You on your Wisper Torque and me on my bike. Start with feet on the ground on a steep hill. £100 says I win.

Strictly speaking the throttle should not be operated by the rider if they are sitting on the bike. Our throttles are set to walk along mode so you actually don't get as big a boost as if you press down on the pedal and of course it keeps blasting you past 4mph.

There is no doubt that when pulling off at traffic lights a good torque sensor is a massive advantage.

 

Isn't that an arrestable offence?

 

Tom

Not when you have a throttle!

 

How about a race? You on your Wisper Torque and me on my bike. Start with feet on the ground on a steep hill. £100 says I win.

 

Give me a year to lose about 9 stone and you are on!!

 

Both feet on the ground??? I need one on the pedal!

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Strictly speaking the throttle should not be operated by the rider if they are sitting on the bike. Our throttles are set to walk along mode so you actually don't get as big a boost as if you press down on the pedal and of course it keeps blasting you past 4mph.

I heard that one could change the setting on that bike, if one knows how, so that it works like a normal throttle.

 

I've book-marked your above post and put a note in my diary for 25th Oct 2017. I'll come to your place as long as you have a hill. If you don't lose the 9 stone, I win the £100 then, or would you still want to race for it?

It does, but that's really only for USA, Canada and NZ.

So, if I buy a Wisper and I'm about to emigrate to NZ, I can get it with a fully operational throttle?

Yep!

I heard that one could change the setting on that bike, if one knows how, so that it works like a normal throttle.

 

I've book-marked your above post and put a note in my diary for 25th Oct 2017. I'll come to your place as long as you have a hill. If you don't lose the 9 stone, I win the £100 then, or would you still want to race for it?

 

OK you are on, but I still want to race, it'll give me a target!

9 stone in a year.......hmmm someone is dreaming. Lol.

Maybe, done it before....

Maybe, done it before....

Ive dreamt often so don't doubt it

Are you sure you're not suffering from too much internet research?

 

I can understand the need for a throttle. I have one and find it very useful at times.

 

Why would you want a torque and cadence sensor? Both have advantages and disadvantages. I would say that a torque sensor could be better for difficult off-road riding and cadence sensor is better for normal riding. Some cadence sensor systems are rubbish and so are some torque sensor systems. Cadence systems have improved over the years and most on modern bikes are pretty good. I have one on my bike and wouldn't want anything else.

 

Try coming back from the gym after a harsh leg exercise. The last thing you'd want to do is pedal. I don't drive by the way.

My torque sensor experience is with Bosch bikes.

 

On turbo, there's not a lot of effort required - you aren't doing a lot more than turning the pedals to activate the motor.

 

Still some effort required on steep hills, but that's more a function of the power of the motor rather than the sensors.

My torque sensor experience is with Bosch bikes.

 

On turbo, there's not a lot of effort required - you aren't doing a lot more than turning the pedals to activate the motor.

 

Still some effort required on steep hills, but that's more a function of the power of the motor rather than the sensors.

 

On my A2B Hybrid the opposite seems to be the norm. On flat, the motor gets you to do some or most of the work, although a lot less effort and more speed than a regular bike. That's when I feel tempted to swap the bike with a cadence one. On hills, however, I feel the bike becomes fully alive...my leg effort is minimal. Then again, we don't have a lot of hills, let alone steep hills down south.

Isn't that an arrestable offence?

 

Only if you have an easily offended audience