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You likely won't get the full result on the 5th or even the 6th. Probably by the 7th the full result will be in, with all votes throughout Americaland will have been accounted for.

 

If he does win, and I hope to God he doesnt, mainly as he is weak and easily manipulated by the likes of Putin and other strongman leaders.

Trump in the white house would be very bad for the Ukraine. and he might give them the ultimatum of ceding the land Russia has taken in their invasion to Russia, or the US supply of weaponry and ordnance will cease.

That will be the stipulation of any 'peace' accord to end the Russo/Ukraine war.

SW, are you betting on Trump winning?

 

Will Trump manage his full term without being assassinated would make a good side bet.

Already two attempts, though really only one, from a republican voter, the other not actually having been taken.

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He will win the vote.

 

I'm interested why are you so sure ? The pollsters have Trump slightly ahead and think that a close Trump win is most likely, but they think that results from a decisive win for Harris to a decisive win for Trump are possible.

 

If Trump wins, I suspect Vance will engineer the 25th amendment, and take over ( and Thiel will get his choice in power)

He will win the vote, but they can't let him win. They have five options:

1. Take him out

2. Cheat in such a huge amount that it's unplausible. They'll get caught and accuse everybody that points it out of misinformation.

3. Not accept the result and end democracy.

4. Nuke Russia.

5. Fake an alien invasion.

 

I've ordered in a huge sack of popcorn, which I'll start eating about 17:00 tomorrow.

Apparently, Trump's surrogates are already busy preparing to file court paperwork to contest the count citing fraud in not just swing states, but all possible states. They are suddenly the camp for principles, a fraud is a fraud, no matter how few they are or who commited a fraud.

Their plan is for Congress (should maga wins the majority) to strike down the result of at least one state, maga Congress then need only 20% or half of their members to force a vote on the basis of the 12th amendment, one state one vote, to elect their president. Tell me if I am wrong on this.

About Trump winning, I think Trump has already more or less conceded. He wouldn't prepare to shout fraud so early. If you look at statistics (not polls), Harris leads Trump by 18% among women voters, Trump leads by 8% on men voters. So far, half of the votes are cast, with women leading by about 10%. That gives already Harris a massive advantage.

 

women: 9,562,945 * 18% Harris advantage: 1,721,330

men: 7,754,000 * 8% Trump's advantage: 620,320

Harris has already pocketed more than 1.1 million votes more than Trump on 17,316,945 of known statistics or 6.3% overall.

Trump has litterally a tiny chance to make it up today.

If Harris lead is confirmed later in days to come, Harris would win the popular vote by more than 11 millions votes (175 millions * 0.063). I know the number is unprecedented, but this election is on principles, what kind of society the Americans want their country to be.

 

» 2024 Early Voting UF Election Lab

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Apparently, Trump's surrogates are already busy preparing to file court paperwork to contest the count citing fraud in not just swing states, but all possible states. They are suddenly the camp for principles, a fraud is a fraud, no matter how few they are or who commited a fraud.

Their plan is for Congress (should maga wins the majority) to strike down the result of at least one state, maga Congress then need only 20% or half of their members to force a vote on the basis of the 12th amendment, one state one vote, to elect their president. Tell me if I am wrong on this.

About Trump winning, I think Trump has already more or less conceded. He wouldn't prepare to shout fraud so early. If you look at statistics (not polls), Harris leads Trump by 18% among women voters, Trump leads by 8% on men voters. So far, half of the votes are cast, with women leading by about 10%. That gives already Harris a massive advantage.

 

women: 9,562,945 * 18% Harris advantage: 1,721,330

men: 7,754,000 * 8% Trump's advantage: 620,320

Harris has already pocketed more than 1.1 million votes more than Trump on 17,316,945 of known statistics or 6.3% overall.

Trump has litterally a tiny chance to make it up today.

If Harris lead is confirmed later in days to come, Harris would win the popular vote by more than 11 millions votes. I know the number is unprecedented, but this election is on principles, what kind of society the Americans want their country to be.

 

» 2024 Early Voting UF Election Lab

All his legal challenges came to nothing at the last election, when, arguably, he was in a much stronger position to influence. I still think a Trump win at the polls is still a strong possibility

All his legal challenges came to nothing at the last election, when, arguably, he was in a much stronger position to influence. I still think a Trump win at the polls is still a strong possibility

Congress passed a revised law 'Electoral Count Act ' in Dec 22.

Congress approves new election rules in Jan. 6 response | AP News

This article in Politico explains better than I do the plot that maga set up:

The Very Real Scenario Where Trump Loses and Takes Power Anyway - POLITICO

Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Congress passed a revised law 'Electoral Count Act ' in Dec 22.

Congress approves new election rules in Jan. 6 response | AP News

This article in Politico explains better than I do the plot that maga set up:

The Very Real Scenario Where Trump Loses and Takes Power Anyway - POLITICO

Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

His team seem pretty incompetent at this sort of stuff and the authorities are pre-warned that he is going to try it

His team seem pretty incompetent at this sort of stuff and the authorities are pre-warned that he is going to try it

there are plenty of clever people in the backroom in both camps. Harris has 21 billionaires, Trump 14 but Elon Musk is the biggest so pretty evenly matched in terms of muscles. When Trump said that he has a little secret with Mike Johnson, the maga congress leader, it seems that he was talking about this plan to take power if he loses the vote. It was saneagle who explained to me the dark art of winning power before Jan 6. Back then Powell talked in code about the Kraken. This time, it's Mike Johnson.

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there are plenty of clever people in the backroom in both camps. Harris has 21 billionaires, Trump 14 but Elon Musk is the biggest

 

Yeah but Musk is the only high profile one the public are really familiar with, and with his nickname of 'space-karen' I think most see him as a bit of a joke.

Both sides are financed by the billionaires, so trade policies will remain substantially unchanged. The difference is in the tax rates, government funding and government contracts. If Trump wins, I expect Musk will control nasa, if Harris wins, bezos may get some contracts.

CT should stand for Critical Thinking instead of.. hehe.

Try remembering facts for a change.

 

Who had the mules dropping "ballots" at night?

Let's look at this "theorey"

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/06/evidence-gaps-in-2000-mules/

 

"Smartphone location data is sold" Fact.

(They couldn't sell it if it didn't track accurately?)

 

"People in vicinity of 10 *or more* drop boxes AND five or more 'non-profit' " Fact.

Drop, kerching..etc, who votes 10 times, at 10 different places +, and then visits 5 NGO's?

 

"But even if the ballots were dropped at boxes *Illegally*" Fact.

If it's illegal then the ballot is invalid, y?

 

Vote in person, on the day, with ID.

After all if you've nothing to hide.. isn't that the mantra? :cool:

Open boxes in a pickup truck! Are they taking this seriously?Screenshot_20241105-132201_Chrome.thumb.jpg.7477bd2b6e1c76674c2046b14859c2e2.jpg

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Who had the mules dropping "ballots" at night?

I don't get what you are trying to say.

The article you linked to did not confirm the story at the centre of the plot.

2000 mules. The sequel to One Ass.

 

The only ever election fraud is the one people are balloting for, namely Trump himself.

I can't see Trump go peacefully with all the pending court cases against him and Jan 6 prisoners in jail at the moment.

 

 

If he doesn't win it he's likely going to end up in prison, and as a super duper consolation prize, Musk's stock is going to take a nosedive.

They might also with more time on their hands look very closely into the legality of Musk's attempt to buy votes

So if Trump loses, we're in for a very interesting couple of years.

The Terrifying Group About to Stage a Pro-Trump Comeback

Could we see another January 6 attack?

https://newrepublic.com/post/187876/proud-boys-donald-trump-comeback-attack

 

Man Planned to Use Drone With Explosive to Attack Substation, U.S. Says

 

"On Saturday, the sources went with him to a hotel in Nashville, where they conducted a Nordic ritual, which included a Nordic prayer and discussion about the Norse god Odin, prosecutors said.

 

The criminal complaint said that neo-Nazis and white supremacists sometimes take part in such rituals before conducting an attack to ask for help from the gods — and also because Adolf Hitler took interest in pagan and Nordic traditions."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/columbia-energy-facility-weapon-mass-destruction.html

 

 

 

 

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"In the end, he sold the broken electric car at a loss and bought a Toyota Corolla — a car made in 2007 that he felt was more reliable — for the equivalent of $20,000, a sum that included the hefty taxes imposed on gasoline vehicles. Taxes can be higher than the cost of importing the vehicle.

https://fortune.com/2024/11/03/ev-import-ban-gas-powered-cars-green-transition-ethiopia/

 

And what do the rulers drive around in?

 

Toyota land cruisers with very Non-electric snorkels?

(CT = critical thinking);)

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"The European Commission recently launched a legal challenge against Hungary over it’s Russian-like ‘foreign influence’ law, which would ban domestic media companies and N*Government*alOs receiving international investment."

'The Journal' (irish)

 

Yes, stop foreign paid interference, as is their right. Wonder why EU wants it, kerching?€€€

 

"In July, Fine Gael MEPs and their European colleagues renewed calls to invoke Article 7 of the Treaty of the European Union on Hungary - which would block Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and other Hungarian representatives from voting in Brussels.."

How *democratic*?

 

"European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen’s plan for a ‘Democracy Shield’, aiming to better protect the *right to vote*".

Unless you dont vote ze vay Urzula vants, ja?

 

"A law against violence against women, the first of its kind, was approved last year by the EU"

There is a law against violence in every EU country, is there not? Did they think it was legal before? Dozy twonks! :D

CSUF Engineering Math Model Predicts Next US President

Retired CSUF Professor’s Math Model Has Correctly Forecasted Three of the Last Four Presidential Elections

 

"In the 2024 race for the White House, Putcha’s mathematical model forecasts former President Donald Trump to win with 47.95% of the popular vote and 271 electoral votes, while Vice President Kamala Harris would gain 46.12% of the popular vote and 267 electoral votes — a 2% margin of error. "

"Factors that could skew the model’s prediction are undecided voters, or voters who may refuse to participate in public polls, Putcha said."

 

https://news.fullerton.edu/press-release/csuf-engineering-math-model-predicts-next-us-president/

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