June 11, 20241 yr With my 2A charger, I won't get much mileage from a 1 hour charge. Do they tow your EV/microEV away after 2 hours? Then charge you a release fee plus £0.57 per kWh? They forbid use of chargepoint for more than an hour, but also forbid returning until after 2 hours? Here's a solution for you. Stick one of these in your pannier. It only weighs about 10kg. It charges in 1 hr from empty, and it holds 1548wh when full, so you can do the 1hr charge, then charge your bike at a nice slow speed whenever and wherever you want. They're also pretty good for free energy at home and give you power when there's a power cut. Don't forget to claim the £100 off, so only £559. I've got two and the extension batteries. https://uk.vtoman.com/products/vtoman-flashspeed-1500-power-station?variant=46889386836277
June 11, 20241 yr https://uk.vtoman.com/products/vtoman-flashspeed-1500-power-station?variant=46889386836277 Ordered five. Thanks. ...will charge them at work.
June 11, 20241 yr With my 2A charger, I won't get much mileage from a 1 hour charge. Do they tow your EV/microEV away after 2 hours? Then charge you a release fee plus £0.57 per kWh? They forbid use of chargepoint for more than an hour, but also forbid returning until after 2 hours? I may need a translator. How far apart can these Chargepoints be in Scotland? 40 miles? Are we limited to 13A, if we use the plug adapter linked above? Even if I thought charging three of these cheapo 7.8Ah "LITHIUM-IRON" batteries with three 8A chargers was a sensible and safe activity to be engaged in (without an iron), I couldn't attempt to do so without using three chargepoints simultaneously for an hour, or three 1 hour chargepoint sessions at the same chargepoint: https://chargeplacescotland.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/cps-etiquette-guide.pdf https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374438239849 Am I liable if one of these battery packs goes up in flames and destroys the Chargepoint? If not, I might give this ago. What puts me off is Scottish midges. Fast charging those battery packs at 8A will make a big difference in temperature A while since I looked in detail, but I think they will at least give 6.6kW AC output, about 30A, but remember that's at mains voltage AC, not 36V DC.
June 11, 20241 yr A while since I looked in detail, but I think they will at least give 6.6kW AC output, about 30A, but remember that's at mains voltage AC, not 36V DC. I just found this adapter on Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006861987045.html AFAICT, it should let you power any device with a UK plug (BS1363) using a public Type 2 EV charger. See 2nd product variation for UK compatible plug. So, who's going to be the first to try it out?.... That adapter is rated "16A", so my 4 X 4A charger to 4 X 5Ah fast charge battery plan could be back on. But I'll probably buy a second 19.2Ah battery.
June 11, 20241 yr If you're going to carry adapters and chargers around with you, you might as well carry a spare battery. 400wh only weighs 2kg.
June 11, 20241 yr If you're going to carry adapters and chargers around with you, you might as well carry a spare battery. 400wh only weighs 2kg. What use is that if you’re on a week long cycle tour, camping?
June 11, 20241 yr If you're going to carry adapters and chargers around with you, you might as well carry a spare battery. 400wh only weighs 2kg. Check out this modular battery: https://www.rubbee.co.uk/ If each module could be fast charged by a monster charger with separate 4A outputs, we could use the adapter [mention=6332]danielrlee[/mention] linked to charge within an hour at car charging stations. Use each and deplete, repeat. For my uses, a second 19.2Ah battery will suffice. Who the heck wants to ride more than 80 miles a day? Nobody normal.
June 12, 20241 yr Author If you're going to carry adapters and chargers around with you, you might as well carry a spare battery. 400wh only weighs 2kg. My thoughts exactly. Found this system where you don't carry a battery or a charger, just a cable that tells the (free) charging point which of 21 brands of bike you've got. The cable costs 1/8 as much as a battery would, see pages 11 and 14. Bike-Energy.com leaflet
June 12, 20241 yr My thoughts exactly. Found this system where you don't carry a battery or a charger, just a cable that tells the (free) charging point which of 21 brands of bike you've got. The cable costs 1/8 as much as a battery would, see pages 11 and 14. Bike-Energy.com leaflet I very much like the sound of "free". Is the cable for Bafang 2 pin, or more for the Canbus version? If two pin and 2A charging... "Advantages for HOTELS & GASTRONOMIES strong influx of day visitors; “guest magnet”" (page 14) ...having to hang around charging for 10 hours, is more like guest superglue. Welcome to Hotel California.
June 12, 20241 yr What use is that if you’re on a week long cycle tour, camping? If you're on holiday, you can charge from a solar panel. No need for a charger, adapter or anything.
June 12, 20241 yr If you're on holiday, you can charge from a solar panel. No need for a charger, adapter or anything. Yep, that will work really well overnight. Or perhaps cycle in the night, and sleep during the day. Better for traffic too.
June 12, 20241 yr Yep, that will work really well overnight. Or perhaps cycle in the night, and sleep during the day. Better for traffic too. It must be very frustrating to have a mind that is constrained by paradigms rather than create solutions.
June 12, 20241 yr It must be very frustrating to have a mind that is constrained by paradigms rather than create solutions. It could be argued that 'solar charging' is the paradigm and 'night cycling' is the solution.
June 12, 20241 yr It could be argued that 'solar charging' is the paradigm and 'night cycling' is the solution. Good point, well presented. It's actually what I plan for my trip. Edited June 12, 20241 yr by saneagle
June 28, 20241 yr Author My thoughts exactly. Found this system where you don't carry a battery or a charger, just a cable that tells the (free) charging point which of 21 brands of bike you've got. The cable costs 1/8 as much as a battery would, see pages 11 and 14. Bike-Energy.com leaflet Thing is though that the adapter cables are bulky, cost around £60 and I don't see what keeps them from being nicked while in use. Would this european system succeed over here? I'm not sure.
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