Maybe I am wrong after all! As it looks like the Funkypigeon (as seen on TV!) is riding one....why I cant imagine as he can fly!

 

http://i55.tinypic.com/2upzkie.jpg

 

Let me clear up your confusion about why funkypigeon uses his Tonaro Eddie, it's faster than flying! :-)

Hey what a great name for a new model, the Tonaro Eddie!

Hey what a great name for a new model, the Tonaro Eddie!

 

In Germany they have 2 names the "Spacerider" and "Rolektro Sport" I think your idea better.....

http://i55.tinypic.com/2upzkie.jpg

 

This is unusual! Birds can fly and can cycle too. Who knew!!!

Hi Brian

Sorry, I've just come across your PM, I note it was sent a few days ago. I can't seem to PM you, but wanted to reply. Hence the PublicPM

Hey no probs, hope you feel you can start contributing to the forum again soon. I feel that the Tonaro needs to get a fair hearing, and your in put is invaluable for those of us who are trying to make sense of the E-Bike world and get feedback from owners. As I am not an engineer or technically minded and I rely on others here to inform me, which is great, but I also rely on getting 'happy vibes' from owners and users of E-Bikes like you. Please keep posting, for the sake of those who need to know about the benefits of the Tonaro's, and Crank Drive bikes.

Hope to read you soon

Graeme

Me too , Brian, I love your enthusiasm and the sheer joy you get from riding your bike-that's something money can't buy (although you did have to buy the (right) bike of course but let's not get in to that again !). Best wishes:)

Please see quote below copied from the Tonaro site.

 

TONARO power assisted electric bicycle is a new high-tech product independently developed and patented by China National Aero-Technology Guangzhou Company Limited.

 

The way I read the comment is that it is new and not a straight copy of the Yamaha crank motor.

 

I think a misunderstanding, it was the motor that I referred to as identical to the earlier Yamaha, rather than the unit. I believe the patent refers to the transmission within the unit from the Tonaro sourced information that I read. On all these crank drive types the electric motor is only a part of the whole power unit, the torque sensing, electronic hardware and software and internal transmission, together with the way they integrate are all vital to the whole. They don't all do that entirely successfully as the new and very different type of Yamaha unit shows.

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Edited August 28, 201114 yr by flecc

it was the motor that I referred to as identical to the Yamaha

 

And the motor which clears rain off my old Land Rover windscreen. But I do like the Tonaro and would like to try one out more than any other ebike at the moment.

And the motor which clears rain off my old Land Rover windscreen. But I do like the Tonaro and would like to try one out more than any other ebike at the moment.

 

Yes, it's an interesting design and a welcome addition to the flush of crank drives we have now, especially at it's price point. I don't know why Graeme feels the brand isn't getting a fair hearing, the owners are all praising it in here, some of those not owning them like myself have recommended inquirers consider them, others like yourself have expressed high interest levels and the very few outright comments against have been very obviously banter.

 

That goes with the territory, every new model gaining popularity throughout the life of the forum has always come in for some mickey taking, and the OTT praise by some Tonaro owners has been obviously tempting such a response. What else can they expect with such a thread title as "Tonaro, simply the best". Obviously it will be said that it isn't, and owners shouldn't be so sensitive about such a predictable response to a provocative title.

Well I like mine but I don`t know if it is "Simply the best" because it is the only one I have owned and there are things that could be improved. But I served in the army for a long time and we drove land rovers all the time, all over the world in some awful conditions. We could have had much nicer and posher vehicles to drive but we could fix the land rovers with bits of wire and bent nails. The Tonaro seems to be the Land Rover of the electric bike world at the moment.

 

If I decide I want a more refined bike and promise to keep on tarmac, then I may look for something lighter next year. As it is, I can take my Tonaro Enduro anywhere. I have just spent the weekend on gritty, stoney tracks in the woods and my gears are clunking and there is half a beach in my chain but it still grinds on, literally.

 

I will post a short video when I sort it out. It will hopefully help dispell this electric bike - Invalid carriage myth.

 

Steve

... I don't know why Graeme feels the brand isn't getting a fair hearing, the owners are all praising it in here, some of those not owning them like myself have recommended inquirers consider them, others like yourself have expressed high interest levels and the very few outright comments against have been very obviously banter.

 

 

What else can they expect with such a thread title as "Tonaro, simply the best". Obviously it will be said that it isn't, and owners shouldn't be so sensitive about such a predictable response to a provocative title.

 

'Provocative' title?

I didn't read that into it, I just take it as a reference to a euphoric enthusiasts e-bike experience...not a call to engage the enemy.

It's very similar language used by dealers on their websites, 'we sell the BEST E-Bikes' etc (and some other forum enthusiasts) ...I don't see that as provocative, its just opinion based on their observations, experiences enthusiasm and business aims. I think we all understand that and decipher the message. So maybe we should cut the enthusiasts some slack.

 

I didn't say the Tonaro brand wasn't getting a fair hearing, in context, I said I wanted it to get a fair hearing, and one way it will continue to get a fair hearing is for enthusiast like Brian to continue posting, sorry if that wasn't clear. I like to hear from the logical technical people with their carefully calculated posts, I find that VERY helpful, AND I like to hear from people who may or may not have technical knowledge, but just love their bike, whatever the brand. Some have the ability to present facts and offer corrections, but lets not burst bubbles. Just to be clear, I'm not implying that you flecc, 'burst bubbles', its a general comment.

Yes, it's an interesting design and a welcome addition to the flush of crank drives we have now, especially at it's price point. I don't know why Graeme feels the brand isn't getting a fair hearing, the owners are all praising it in here, some of those not owning them like myself have recommended inquirers consider them, others like yourself have expressed high interest levels and the very few outright comments against have been very obviously banter.

 

That goes with the territory, every new model gaining popularity throughout the life of the forum has always come in for some mickey taking, and the OTT praise by some Tonaro owners has been obviously tempting such a response. What else can they expect with such a thread title as "Tonaro, simply the best". Obviously it will be said that it isn't, and owners shouldn't be so sensitive about such a predictable response to a provocative title.

 

Can I just point out Flecc, that Brian, for instance, was certainly not being sensitive about the responses he got, he said himself that it was just banter and he apologised to eddieo if he had offended him, the reason he left was that he felt that anyone who came to his defence seemed to be attacked verbally too, see Eddieo's response to Oiseaux for example, and decided life was too short to get embroiled in exchanges like that when he has so many wonderful cycle routes to explore on his beloved bike.

I told him I thought we were all big enough to stand our own ground....its a public forum and these spats are common, but, anyway, he's left and thats a shame.

 

Lynda

 

'Provocative' title?

I didn't read that into it, I just take it as a reference to a euphoric enthusiasts e-bike experience...not a call to engage the enemy.

 

But of course it is provocative to the owners of other models, precisely because they feel just the same about their bikes. It's provocative in that it provokes them to make jokes or comment sarcastically about the Tonaros, based on greatly inflated vestiges of truth. Most jokes are after all based upon exaggeration.

 

That's always happened with new models gaining popularity as I've pointed out, but on this occasion an excess of sensitivity caused some to see the jokes and sarcasm as serious, leading to them responding in like manner. That it escalated from there is entirely predictable. The jokes and sarcasm should have been accepted with good grace in the first instance and shrugged off.

I think your wasting your breath Tony...But well said!

"The jokes and sarcasm should have been accepted with good grace in the first instance and shrugged off."

 

OTT Enthusiastic Titles likewise.

 

As for your comment

"Most jokes are after all based upon exaggeration."

That's is just WAY WAY OTT.

Edited August 29, 201114 yr by Graeme

I dont think any of us are going to be offended over good natured banter about our favourite bikes......but I reiterate.....not personal name calling.....

 

Lynda

I think your wasting your breath Tony...But well said!

 

I respectfully disagree Eddie, flecc is not wasting his breath.

"The jokes and sarcasm should have been accepted with good grace in the first instance and shrugged off."

 

OTT Enthusiastic Titles likewise.

 

I think a joke in response is acceptance in good grace, but I suspect you'll disagree.

 

 

As for your comment

"Most jokes are after all based upon exaggeration."

That's is just WAY WAY OTT.

 

Really? Joke subjects change over the decades, often for PC reasons, but the one common thread I've always noticed in most jokes has been the element of obvious exaggeration, a key element in stimulating the amused response.

 

I'd be very interested if you are able to refer me to any joke book where the majority of jokes are not based on, or inclusive of, exaggeration.

flecc, please! it was my feeble attempt at humour!

Read my comments again with that in mind, they may read differently...

flecc, please! it was my feeble attempt at humour!

Read my comments again with that in mind, they may read differently...

 

Thanks Graeme, it hadn't dawned on me, but my "I suspect you'll disagree" in the last post was intended as a humorous tease!

 

Oh yes, emm I knew that...:o

Didn`t we lose the plot here that Tonaros are simply the best and the rest of you just ride pathetic heaps of junk like old geezers going down the bookies to put on your weekly bets.

 

But of course since we have seen that they are now making yellow Tonaros......can someone point me to the nearest William Hills????

 

Steve

Didn`t we lose the plot here that Tonaros are simply the best and the rest of you just ride pathetic heaps of junk like old geezers going down the bookies to put on your weekly bets.

 

But of course since we have seen that they are now making yellow Tonaros......can someone point me to the nearest William Hills????

 

Steve

 

Hi Steve lol please its not finished yet ,i have had it from the very top ,that they are going to give it a lick of hamerite,to toughen it up a bit .lol best wishes ,bye for now ,last seen heading for the Great Orm,Brian.