Bosch Nyon Issues?. New substantial update: Jan 2015

RobF · Dec 17, 2014

Fair play to Martin for keeping everyone up to speed, but this is very poor from Bosch.

It's obvious the original Nyon was no more than a bug ridden test bed.

Bosch should have paid customers to find all the problems, not charged them.

It's called product development, Bosch should be doing it, not cynically using customers to get it done for nothing.

mike killay · Dec 17, 2014

Sounds like an electronically assisted nightmare.
And for what purpose?
Do cyclists really want all this gubbins, or is it a matter of chips being so cheap, builders are desperately looking for some way to use them?

triumph_st · Dec 17, 2014

On the German forum they are not very happy with the update. It now crashes even more. What a piece of junk this Nyon and its software is.

bigclick · Dec 28, 2014

I don't need the controller for anything except flicking to turbo on a steep hill and checking battery level.

Even so, I love gadgets and geekware so I'm happy to have all the bells and whistles if they're available.

My main critism is that the left side controller has the mode button sticking out so its easy to change the dashboard view by accident. Slightly harder to do but also doable is changing power setting accidentally. All of these accidental changes are with full gloves on so it might be a bit unfair... Will wait for warmer times and see how we go.

bigclick · Dec 28, 2014

Also why no touch screen control?

mfj197 · Dec 28, 2014

bigclick said:
Also why no touch screen control?

Because for touch screen control you have to be looking at the screen. It's the same reason why touch screen controls in cars aren't as useful as button / knob operated. You have to take your eyes off the road for sufficient time to orient your hand and finger relative to the screen, to recognise where you need to press, to move finger to do the pressing and all that with no physical reference for leaning your hand on to give precise relative control. With the knob-based systems you can glance at the screen for just long enough to see what screen it is on then do much of the changing by feel. I have the former in my car and it can be a pain sometimes.

Michael

EddiePJ · Dec 28, 2014

bigclick said:
My main critism is that the left side controller has the mode button sticking out so its easy to change the dashboard view by accident. Slightly harder to do but also doable is changing power setting accidentally. All of these accidental changes are with full gloves on so it might be a bit unfair... Will wait for warmer times and see how we go.

I also suffered the same issue as you in relation to knocking the joystick on the handlebar control.
Solution... Ride with SRS, mention it to him, and within seconds he said "well loosen it and move it in a bit" A solution like that was far to simple for me to have come with. Thanks to SRS, I now no longer knock mine.

I can't wait to get shot of the whole system altogether, and fit a Bosch Intuvia instead. Once I have looked into how to fit the Intuvia, my whole system will be up for sale. I bought my bike, for the spec and colour not the Nyon system, and don't personally see that it has any place on an e-mtb. It's too big, bulky, ugly and venerable. I shan't miss it. It is the one and only aspect that I hate about the bike.

bigclick · Feb 1, 2015

I downloaded the iOS ap today. It's just as clunky as the Nyon and the website. Not what you would expect from Bosch.

mike killay · Feb 1, 2015

It seems to me that the much vaunted Bosch system is not actually designed to provide a good motor for cyclists.
It is designed to provide enormous profits for Bosch.

RobF · Feb 1, 2015

mike killay said:
It seems to me that the much vaunted Bosch system is not actually designed to provide a good motor for cyclists.
It is designed to provide enormous profits for Bosch.

Wow, company sets out to make a profit shock.

I know one or two posters on here just cannot bear the idea of a premium product, but let's at least try to examine the system rationally.

The Bosch motor provides a seamless 'set and forget' ebiking experience, the quality of which is only further demonstrated by the clonky power delivery of other systems.

On t'other hand, the Nyon part of it looks garbage - as I've posted a few times.

mike killay · Feb 1, 2015

RobF said:
Wow, company sets out to make a profit shock.

I know one or two posters on here just cannot bear the idea of a premium product, but let's at least try to examine the system rationally.

The Bosch motor provides a seamless 'set and forget' ebiking experience, the quality of which is only further demonstrated by the clonky power delivery of other systems.

On t'other hand, the Nyon part of it looks garbage - as I've posted a few times.

What you ain't got, don't need no fixin'
(£153 to do what other 'clonky' systems achieve by removing a magnet from a wheel)

ozktm · Feb 3, 2015

Hi there ,

I hope someone here can help me , I'm trying to do software update on my nyon display and update to the Australian map but the display keep saying
" insufficient power " and won't let me to do it , I tried to plug a micro USB cable to my computer and it doesn't seems to work !

Can anyone help me please ??

bigclick · Feb 3, 2015

Plugging in the sub is for power only as far as I can see. Once you have power from the sub you need a wifi network (configure from settings/connections) then you can update from "my Nyon"/ updates

ozktm · Feb 3, 2015

Thanks for your reply

Yes , I conected it with wifi and the USB plunged into computer but it keep showing the same error message !

Stressed me out !!

nashdm2 · Feb 3, 2015

Have you checked that the Nyon unit is getting power from your USB lead? I think the bottom left of the Nyon unit has battery symbol with a charge indicator or something? Try leaving it on charge for a long while if you know it is charging or, go for a long ride which will charge it.

jcubbin · Feb 3, 2015

Hi ozktm,

I know it may sound like a daft question but the computer you have the usb lead plugged into is switched on and being used and not gone in to a sleep state has it.

Also try the rear usb port rather than one of the front ones if it's a desktop computer

selrahc1992 · Feb 3, 2015

mike killay said:
Sounds like an electronically assisted nightmare.
And for what purpose?
Do cyclists really want all this gubbins, or is it a matter of chips being so cheap, builders are desperately looking for some way to use them?

second that, imagine for a moment a nightmare connected world ten years from now when all ones smart appliances, AND ones bicycle AND laptop is subject to software upgrades and typical windows crashes..

ozktm · Feb 3, 2015

The problem with this headunit is it not showing any signs of if it being charge or not , I turned the unit off and plug the cable into it and it turned itself on , so I belived it should have power going through , I double checked with the same USB port on my phone and it works , I am leaving it overnight and see if it fixed the problem , I checked the battery indicator it on the display and it showing kind of full bar on the battery icon , I'm leaving it overnight and hope it will be charged , by the way do you need to have the display charged 100% for updating the software or downloading maps ?

Sherman · Feb 3, 2015

Change cable or use a phone charger (or the cable from the charger). (Cheap) micro usb cables often fail at charging.

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