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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, the USA is, by far, the eu's largest trading partner. For some perspective(in this terrible time of fake news) the UK exports around 44% of its goods and services to the rest of the EU, whereas EU exports about 8% of its goods and services to UK according to ONS. Yes, brexit voters, as you...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is that why Corbyn had a surge of support in the last election and pragmatic may (swinging from pro euro to hard brexit, like Boris) lost her majority. You're not describing pragmatism or middle ground. You're describing an ultra right wing perspective narrowly obsessed with UK self interest...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who is the' we' you so comfortably make assumptions about? Call me a patriot if you like, but I don't think the majority of the UK population are the narcissistic, conservative tossers obsessed with arm sales and heartless about the plight of refugees you describe. I think at least 16 million of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Which does raise the obvious question, why do17 million brits who have been part of a (it must be said often very corrupt) heterogenous union find being part of a much more constitutional legal civilised heterogenous union (EU) so difficult? I imagine it's some form of Stockholm syndrome. If...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Frankly, I disagree. Comparing the UK to Norway or suggesting may doesn't want to take UK out of echr as part of trying to focus on the ecj's alleged differences with echr was at best you not researching data, at worst disingenuous. I am not sure that bending facts to substantiate ones views is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I see..misunderstanding,my apologies. however I agree with the piece in the canary..i think there's rather a lot of damaging conservatism dressed up as centrist in UK politics
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Look, the last few pages have been more heat than light. Reread tom's post - he expresses a passionately held view unequivocally. But he didn't make it personal. On this occasion you have. There is a line between vigorous debate and personal attack. If you disagree with his views on extremism...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Welcome back, the truth hurts, huh? As the incredible stupidity of brexit becomes ever more apparent, to the world, my view of brexit voters, like you, should probably be the least of your concerns. But I can appreciate that you may not be able to see that.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Strictly for what it's worth, it's always good to hold in mind the - vast- majority of sexual abuse, in the UK as elsewhere, is perpetrated by parents of the child. And that fact cuts across ethnic boundaries.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'taught to be patriotic' usually translate as manipulated by politicians to further their (not the peoples) interests. Brexit is intrinsically the most unpatriotic phenomenon I've witnessed, in damaging the UK perhaps more long term than anything else in 100 years
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I fundamentally disagree with the xenophobia, racism at the heart of brexit. The dishonesty of a feckless, lazy electorate projecting their woes onto a relatively small, more productive population of immigrants too. In principle I don't seek a compromise with the kind of people who endorsed it...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'lower unit cost of UK labour'? You mean as we get more sweat shops that can compete with those in Vietnam. Take a long look in a mirror and decide whether that's really what you want to do to your community, fellow citizens, children
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They begrudgingly backtracked - very much for now only - after loosing the majority. From their point of view a temporary set back
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nope, ECHR, see telegraph in April, it was a central objective of that snap election. You guys should really do your homework before trying to smear the ecj, it endorses all the principles of the ECHR
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    However, theresa may specifically says (see bbc news) UK should leave the ECHR
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Okedokes... Oxygen, come back (your friend told us you only pretended to be a brexitter because you were upset with us)!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Do you really not know or was that disingenuous? Norway has rejected it in 2 referenda because 80% of its exports are oil. Per capita it has the second biggest sovereign wealth fund in the world (150000 euro per citizen), funded by oil. Naturally (no pun intended) they are reluctant to give it...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well, my sympathy. you must buy truck loads of bs daily on the basis of 'as far as I can see'. Be careful out there.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Alfa has (marginally) improved, I have 3 year old mito thats still hanging in there and is ridiculous fun for the money
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Bizarrely I'm a bit the same, first car was an old vw, but I dislike German ergonomics, numbing amounts of rubber and steel, and little feedback. Much better alfa or Fiat, less good reliability is a small price to pay for all the tactile feedback, driving enjoyment