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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We are not all fixated on economic indicators. Some of us are appalled that a bunch of xenophobes,racists and other bigoted unproductive members of society have hijacked what was a flourishing, open integrative country and economy in an attempt to take it culturally back to a nightmare version...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And laying the foundation for the 08 crisis..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How about we all try to do less cutting and pasting?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Einstein was open minded, you could try to emulate him by not being so paradigmatic (he is bound to be superceded at some point, like Newton)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yup, more than half of the Germans supported Hitler in 39,and no doubt you would have too, given the expediency you fall back on, again and again. If it's not down to 'whatever I can rationalise must be true' it's 'whatever I can create a populist consensus around will be true' . When did you...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The chronology is irrelevant, the fact that phenomenology substantiated the thought experiment is crucial. Do you not recall the 2016 experiment about neutrinos travelling faster than speed of light between cern and lab in Italy? Einstein was very nearly toast. You should try to pay more...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    no. 'the ecj hurt our national pride' is a nutty jingoistic bias that the sun would no doubt love to print on its front page. A premise - i.e. approximately valid proposition about reality - it emphatically is not.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    phenomenology remains the necessary connection between theory and experiment. Take dirac's equation which become the Pauli's equation in the phenomenology of coupling electrons in a magnetic field. Thought experiments are a starting point for what needs to be explicated.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    er, those are not 'assumptions', i. e. premises, they are highly emotive, ideological biases. It's the equivalent of saying 'the moons made of cheese because I really like cheese'
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    well, at least I can now see how you came to support brexit...however,all paradigms are at heart phenomenological, all research is qualitative at first (i. e. phenomenological explication) and so everything begins with making human experience explicit. Even socratic reasoning was phenomenological.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    just count the number of assumptions one has to make to support brexit as a hypothesis..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm no physicist, but in the spirit of being profound, doesn't occam's razor cover this aspect of life for carbon based life forms in this dimension?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Something about woosh's defence of brexit over past few pages(and I do admire it, sincerely, at least he tries, which is a great deal more than the primordial noises one gets from other brexiters) tells me he knows a thing, or two (or three) about cognitive dissonance...(comical ali would approve)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'human intuitive sense of right and wrong'? Have you read Lord of the flies? Or been to Praia de battata at 3AM? Human intuition has a lot to do with evolution not right or wrong. Treating others the way you want to be treated is an absolute principle in ethics (which is why I'm with husserl and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not to get hung up on facts (I gather you prefer popular consensus), But you didn't say which 'poll' said 7 out of 10 voters would buy efta from may et al? Also, you do realise Hammond lost that bit of infighting with the hard brexitters? Speaking for myself, I fundamentally disagree with your...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'll give it to you, you are polishing this one. I think one does need to know what it means to buy it. That - not feeling we need to be experts - is a crucial mistake the electorate made with brexit referendum. That's before we get to 'government could sell'. You are morally wrong. This process...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You say that as if 7 out of 10 voters know what efta means. I think not.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Have a look at what erna solberg, Norwegian pm, say on reuters about UK joining eea. 'there would be a significant cost to share and they' (UK) 'would have to accept an authority outside their borders making binding decisions on them' is the mild part of it. This won't wash with part of the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sadly this entire train of thought smacks heavily of brexit wishful thinking. Norway said it would block any application by UK to join efta (it feels a larger economy joining would destabilise efta, and it has veto rights, Google it). The thing about conversations with brexiters, I find, is that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    More broadly than about the ecj, why? Do you have any other reason than the ethnocentric stuff you mentioned about 'us' finding our identity etc? Integrating with EU economy gave us world renowned manufacturing like Nissan in Sunderland. This is people's lives, education, R&D, communities being...