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The build quality of the Kalkhoff belt driven e-bike that i test rode was incredible,well worth a look.

Specialized make fantastic bikes but the prices of their e-bikes are eye wateringly high.

What did you decide to do?

Lets have some photos from you guys of the bikes,the max drive looks very interesting.

If you want to start discussing dongles,Bosch and warranties start a new post.

Have a look at the Wisper e-bike range because they always get rave reviews from buyers on this forum and the after sales care is also said to be outstanding.

I would say yes because the `made in germany` reputation is one that the kalkhoff or Daum engineers will want to protect.

Yes impulse evolution.

I w I would find it hard to believe that the german engineers have not rectified the problems of the impulse by now,like i said previously when mine was right it was spot on and the battery was a 17ah so it had high range when compared to my bosch battery.

Don`t get me wrong i have had a lot of trouble with my 2015 impulse and lost money on the sale but you seem to me to have a personal agenda against the Kalkhoff impulse. I`ll stay with the Bosch CX for now and even those have had issues.

I I had the 2015 impulse motor with the problems,great unit when it was right.According to recent information the known causes of the failures have been rectified from the 2016 motor onwards.

I am not referring to the reliability before 2016 i am talking about the performance of both designs and the fact that the batteries are usually bigger than the bosch offering. I know because i`ve put a lot of miles on both the impulse and bosch.

2015 motors still had the problems with reliability,The 2016 2.2 was released for sale at the end of 2015 and that has the internal upgrades.

Th The 2016-2017 impulse motors have the issues resolved and are now reliable,impulse motors have more power than the Bosch cx and usually have larger batteries. I know because i have owned both designs.

I had the panasonic motor and it said in the manual that the battery should be run completely flat 2 to 3 times to fully condition the lithium battery,i always thought that it was still standard practice.

Bosch CX motor,i think they peak at 700w .

It is the latest Bosch battery.

What is the latest thinking on new battery running flat conditioning cycles,some say yes and others say absolutely not needed.I am not talking about setting the bms on an older battery just when it is brand new.

What is the latest thinking on new battery running flat conditioning cycles,some say yes and others say absolutely not needed.I am not talking about setting the bms on an older battery just when it is brand new.

2016 cube hybrid carbon c-62 elite 500wh battery and bosch CX motor in as new condition size 19 £2000 ono.