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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You're right but, he keeps twisting things to make a point, whatever that might be. There's something OG is not telling us, I'm sure.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Digging really deep now aren't we - where on earth did that come from? I can understand having the Sales Director be a company paid member of the local Golf Club but not he CEO or indeed anyone else on the Board. Middle management - no chance, a car if they are lucky.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not sure, but I detect a circular argument here. The company you worked for lasted 45 years before the plug was pulled due to lack of profit? I guess we can totally agree there then. One must assume it was well managed to have lasted that long and that the local management did a good job - we...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh, and another thing. Where do you think JIT came from? Again, I was on a Systems Analysis course in Shivenham in the 70' s , it might have be late 60's and we went to Cowley to see how things worked - or didn't as it happens. There was no way that the Unions were prepared to accept JIT it was...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You do talk nonsense. There's nothing wrong with our managers, they had their hands tied by successive governments pandering to the union power. It is British managers and designers that are ruining our very successful modern car industry. No, they don't just assemble cars, they do design many...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Close but you seem to forget the part that the Unions played and indeed Government.There was a lot of money wasted and only a fool would have continued to prop it up. Not a place to invest in, certainly not with tax-payers money, much better elsewhere. Previous to MT there seemed to be a lack of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I note that TB put forward a 'solution' today on the AM show. Surprised you haven't bought into it. Basically, get the EU to let us impose our view of free movement (controlled). Given that was the Tory position before the Brexit vote seems dead in the water to me. The EU simply want to make an...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you suggesting that to have continued propping up our failed industries would have been for the common good? How deluded can you be: the costs of our manufacturing, at the time, for such as cars was simply unsustainable in a global market. The technology used was old hat, the workforce were...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't forget the SNP, they're bigger than the LD. Just hope that observation doesn't encourage anyone.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What a silly thing to say. Most of the technician posts are now deemed to be the preserve of graduates nowadays. Hence the rise in both students and Universities and with that the expectations. Nothing against education but it needs a purpose and given that many of the influx from Europe are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Be hard to find perhaps? You don't need one - just an on-off switch would do.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think this thread has run out of ideas, but, not steam it seems. Assuming that there ever were any real ideas. For some reason, the 'Remainders' seem to think they have the moral high ground and with that the right to demolish anything and anyone that thinks differently to them. It's fairly...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not bad but, the measure, I suspect, is that you happen to agree with him? How will you do in this I wonder? http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/73230/brexit-quiz-how-much-do-you-know-about-the-eu
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is going on here - I recall last week we were 'arguing' about the role of the MP and how best they should be representing the electorate. OG, you very clearly were on the side that they should not take the party whip. When it suits I guess?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    At least you asked a question rather than make an assumption - for a welcome change.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    God, (Country) you just get worse, and worse and worse - I could go on and on and on and on - just like you do. Does it still hurt - when you fell off your bike??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Truth be told, it's probably the only reason I 'Remain' on here. There are obviously some good people that ride bikes, around Yorkshire in particular and I can only assume, for longer than I have been riding of late. Not difficult, I only bought my bike last week. I, however, have yet to fall...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Very nice photo and a great place to live. I love the Yorkshire dales / moors and probably walked / ran over most of it in my formative years. How can you live in such a wonderful place and have such radical views - amazing. Strong in arm an' thick in head perhaps?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Many of us were surprised by the referendum result but, to imply, as you constantly do, that this was some kind of plot by the right wing of the Conservative Party is nonsense. How on earth can you imply that they managed to conn the great British Public all on their own. You suggest that the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I take it you are always like this?