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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Really - this thread has become very predictable to me and sad to say rather pointless. I'm surprised you don't use CAPITAL LETTERS all the time. The, you shout loud enough style - we might understand the nonsense. Whatever happened to the art of debate?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I totally agree with you, we are a nanny state. I guess the 'problem' with big multinational business is that it is fairly easy to draw the conclusion that you need them simply because they bring scale of employment to the table. That in turn takes people out of the benefit system and therefore...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Now you are joking surely? There is a raft of EU laws that would seem to fill an enormous warehouse that we are attempting to repeal or adopt as suits. The French seem quite good at choosing which to accept or ignore, we. on the other hand have tended not to have so many laws (by comparison) but...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Quite why you chose to comment on this having given me reason to apologise for assuming you would - surprises me some, not much however. Why do you seem to accept that what he says makes sense, albeit call them platitudes and then make silly comments like this. You completely miss the point...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Didn't mean you personally, I've been to Germany: the trains run on time; no one walks on the grass; the trees, in the parks, have names, birthdays; no one jay walks. It's different but it's not England, I don't live there and I don't want to live there. I like England, yet find myself in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OK done that, now I'm an 'expert' on economics - what's next? D+I=P OK just joking but not that far removed when politicians play at economics
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OK let us leave JRM out of this, quite white why you mentioned him again I'm unsure. Also, let us leave your view of economics out of this too - we really don't need it to run a country or an economy. We need a goal, together with good impartial advice to enable the necessary decisions to be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That essentially is my view. I totally buy into the fact that a top-down management style is essentially bad news for people. Equally I personally deplore micro-management. I'm not too sure which is worse, probably the latter, as that is generally in your face. I do not like bureaucracy either...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You obviously either missed this earlier or chose not to read it properly... Writing about oneself is boring, but ideas are not. The question for Conservatives is “What do we want to propose to the electorate and how can we deliver it?” The last election campaign was too managerial and lacked...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG, you're right and I apologise. I should be more reactive. I'll go take a lie down.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Indeed and therein lies the danger, we lose some impartiality . I can already hear the squeal from OG.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just about finished my morning read of the DT No issues with your view of hereditary peers, they have, almost without exception, overstayed their welcome/value. However we need to careful to not create to 'important' a second chamber. It should never be more than advisory. That means advisory...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Big business must take some blame for Brexit Firms have used cheap foreign labour as a lazy substitute for investment in training and productivity...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Contrary to early claims, which I agreed with, perhaps, he really does think he can run the country and 'see off' as Old Tom might say, the landed gentry? If we really do descend into abject poverty post Brexit then the rioting peasants may well bring this scenario to pass. Canterbury Tales.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One for OG to get his teeth into! This being a 'good' read and explanation of tolerance, especially of people who hold different views...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They are at it again... The editor of the Evening Standard is of course that scrupulously impartial observer of Brexit, Mr George Osborne. If you needed a symbol of the revolution in British politics over the past 18 months, there it is. The views of George Osborne, endorsed by Labour, and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Or one too many perhaps?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So true, pity that you have failed to identify the correct target. That said you really fail to identify the best outcome. Absolute failure Tom!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I suspect that he is still excited at the thought of your earlier totally imagined 'exposure' and as with any rush of blood he's still confused to the point where the infatuation could be compared to expectation. I'd be very careful if I were you. There is an obvious record of this.