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  1. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think the promise breaking is all part of a compromise to try and offer something to the Clinton supporters. I can't imagine Clinton supporters smashing up shops and setting cars on fire in protest over Trump's decision not to "build the wall" for example. Or his pledge to, "lock her up." But...
  2. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well hopefully you will remain healthy and won't need to. I'm pleased to hear that you use the French health service, which means there is a tiny bit more to share out here. Every little helps, as the saying goes.
  3. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    People voted for them because they believe that their futures are best served by them. I realise that this belief isn't held by everyone, but in all elections, the people who supported the candidate who came in second will be disappointed. Will they will deliver a better future? Only time will...
  4. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Farage is very popular in the UK. As an elected MEP, I'm not sure what Nigel's obligations are concerning meeting with the future president of The United States of America. However, if the future president is happy to meet him and Nigel is also inclined to do so, why shouldn't they?
  5. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No one can argue with those two cases, but we are all aware of abuse of the benefit system, aren't we? Then there is health tourism.
  6. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But they are not voting to willingly harm themselves, that is just your take on it. They believe, for whatever reason, that their future is best served out of the EU. You must to try and gain the capacity empathise with other people's views.
  7. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG, just because my view differs from yours does not mean that I am susceptible to right wing propaganda, any more than you are susceptible to left wing propaganda. I believe that both of us are able to take in information and reach a conclusion. It's just that our conclusions differ. This right...
  8. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think the EU is failing and in particular the currency is failing. There is unrest amongst the population over a number of issues and I think there will be a massive financial meltdown in the not too distant future. That is going to cause the UK a lot of pain weather we in or out of the...
  9. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    derf, you are clever enough to know that all politicians use this tactic. What about Nick Clegg from the Liberal Democrats and his pledge not to introduce tuition fees? It's the way of the world and you can't pin this type of behaviour exclusively on Donald Trump or any other right leaning...
  10. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree, but those are historical events, the most recent of which you quote is over 30 years ago, or a generation. The mob violence in the USA at the moment involves innocent shop keepers having their businesses harmed, cars set on fire. I don't think we would have seen the same from Trump...
  11. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I see that the EU has issued a warning to Mrs May over trade with the United States. From a declaration of wanting to get in early to negotiate with Trump earlier this week, a little bit of panic now seems to be settling in within the EU. This seems especially so now that the realisation is...
  12. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think this is true, but not entirely un-expected. I never supposed that the wall would be built, or that the Obama care would be totally dismantled. Is it a good thing that these two pledges won't happen? I think it probably is, so nothing to whinge about. I don't think that there will be too...
  13. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Chin up. That's the spirit.
  14. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think that the only certainty with the polls is that they re-define the term useless.
  15. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The war coming bit wasn't intended for this thread. It was in my cut & paste from something I was sending to someone else. I didn't realise it was there until you pointed it out. Soz.
  16. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is nothing mysterious about me. In keeping with your vignette of a true Brexit voter I'm a simple man.
  17. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm sorry, but if you are expecting me to believe that each and every tourist is interviewed and canvassed for their opinion on Brexit, it isn't going to happen. The notion is preposterous. There exists amongst remainers a desire to portray the average Brexit or Trump voter as a white poorly...
  18. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think we need to let the dust settle after Trump's victory and keep an open mind. I think the probability is that he will be better for the UK than the outgoing president. Obama stated that the UK would be right at the back of the queue in terms of any trade deals with the USA. I think Trump...
  19. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is there a war coming? Just read that out loud to yourself and take the time to digest how ridficulous it sounds. I've just shown it to a few colleagues, most of whom voted remain, and without exception they found hilarity in the pompus tone. A classic Capt Mainwaring. And then people wonder...
  20. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am working class (I work for a living), and likewise, these factors are of a concern to me. derf, was portraying this as a negative thing and I was pointing out that he has been very vocal about exchange rates, house prices etc. These concerns are not the exclusive preserve of the uncaring.