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  1. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But the referendum was in the government's manifesto and we knew it was coming if we voted them in. They were voted into office by the official democratic process that we have in this country and they held the referendum resulting in a 52% majority of people wanting to leave the EU. Now my...
  2. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    yeah yeah, what are the numbers oldgroaner, the numbers? Forget the waffle, that's for losers. What percentages do we need to satisfy you?
  3. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But it only seems to be the losers who think the winners have been fed lies. Both sides lied in the run up to the referendum. We are led to in the run up to a General Election, this is nothing new, move along nothing to see here. I made up my own mind and voted out, just like millions of other...
  4. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A re run of the referendum or a General Election to decide may be the preferred option for those who LOST but it isn't for those who WON. I suggest you and the others on here who have difficulty with the concept of Won and Lost look up what it means. Those who voted remain and continue to...
  5. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I really don't know how you can predict this with such certainty and confidence. What about us buying products directly from Asia instead of the EU? I have driven German cars for many years, they are ok, but others are available. Everything you say in your post cuts both ways. Everything...
  6. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree. Who by the way are you trying to convince? Did someone say that immigrants with skills that fill a shortage weren't welcome? This is yet another example of rampant imagination taking over the mind with resultant hallucinations. In this case, the subject (derf) has imagined that people...
  7. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I wouldn't dismis the second biggest economy in the EU quite so lightly. If the EU do put a 9% tariff on our goods and we do likewise raising the cost of say German products, more the fool those who buy them.
  8. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is the posting cat $h!t through the letter box scenario. Why would they want to do that? We can get a big shovel full of dog crap in the form of 50% tariff on BMWs and leave that on their doorstep, thus wiping out 20% of that industry and putting thousands out of work, if that's they way...
  9. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You forgot a couple of things. We are Tesco's second biggest customer and we are saying that we will still buy your goods and you buy a percentage (45% and falling this time last year) of ours in return. Oh, and we will be setting up a depot next door. Now I can't see why Tesco would want to...
  10. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The UK's economy is much larger than Switzerland's. Why will it not be possible for us to negotiate a better deal than they get? It's the same with many things. For example, Tesco can negotiate a better deal from its suppliers than Fred's Corner Shop because Tesco is a big trader.
  11. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We are 336 hours into the result of the referendum being declared. The pound is stronger against the Euro than it was between 2009 and 2013. The pound recovered then and it may or may not do so again. You don't know which way it will go. You don't know if we will be hit by tariffs or at what...
  12. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's easy, you just move to Dali-Gas or Zog Energy. And BGs greed has nothing to do with BREXIT, that is just BG being a hateful bunch of b@stards who should be incinerated with their own gas. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see all of BGs customers desert them and to see the...
  13. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who says so? Where have you heard that? Exactly why will this happen? What are the proven facts that lead to this conclusion?
  14. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wholesale gas has fallen a lot more than that and we haven't seen it passed on. There is plenty of headroom to absorb the rise.
  15. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why can't people, you included, just give us their own opinion on matters. You know the drill, read, digest, understand, think through, re-read, adjust opinion, summarise? Stop just copying and pasting endless links to other people's ramblings, an unknown quantity of which are complete $h!te...
  16. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm begining to pick up a vibe that you @flec @derf @trex and a few others aren't really keen on BREXIT I have a suspicion that if we had a second vote, you would all vote to remain in the EU this time.
  17. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Field Marshall Leadsom will lead us to a magnificent victory, with many acts of valour along the way. Now pick up your rifle and ready yourself for the bully-off man. No more of this quivering lippeed, I'm too frightened attitude. We're going to hit 'em hard in the first chukka.
  18. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Bye. Have fun.
  19. tillson

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Still here. The future looks promising, the outlook bright.
  20. tillson

    Insult to Democracy

    Both are dead.