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it's an attractive idea but I don't have any partner with workspace for such a project. I don't have space here for more bikes or kits.

I haven't got one so can't help you there.

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the guys over at ES may have done that. Did you look?

I did not say that any of these kits are. Those brands are very well known. What I said is none of them will be a big seller. You can pop in the average European e-bike shop where you'll find maybe 100-150 models to choose from, then ask to test ride a Neodrives or a Zehus. I reckon they will...

I could modify the OSF code but would not want to do that.

his Raleigh has the worst possible combination for a steep hill: torque sensor + hub motor. He can probably gets up to the top of Winsley Hill on the Santana but at 90kg his own weight, I think he would be better off with a BBS01 48V crank drive kit. I will test a 48V DWG22C on the Santana when...

that's a serious hill. You will need a crank drive bike.

I have plenty of 48V kits but not 48V bikes at the moment. I would have suggested a 48V BBS01 kit.

it's 55NM, 20A Lishui controller, Bafang SWX02 motor. With your weight, it may struggle up some of the hills in Bath.

is this the Raleigh that you bought (and returned)? Also, which hill did it fail to get you up and how far up that hill when it had enough?

I know Bath pretty well. How much do you weigh?

yes, we do. The cost is parts + labour which is around £80-£90.

The bikes you have tried have a torque sensor,. It's hard to go up a steep hill with bikes that have a torque sensor. You need a bike with cadence sensor which lets you pedal as much (or as little) as you like. A throttle will also help you start on steep hill and get more from the motor.

test ride the new Pinion MGU:

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those so called premium kits are more toys than workhorses, that's why none of them will evolve into a big seller. They tend to concentrate their effort into convincing their customers that they must not have any cables. The rest of the stuff comes probably from the Far East anyway.

we discussed it a bit last month. It looks a bit like the Tongsheng TSDZ2. https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/has-anyone-heard-of-or-tried-toseven-mid-drive.44959/page-24#post-679442

what is your budget?

If I remember correctly, the DWG22C should drop in snuggly. The dropout should be 135mm. To double check, remove the rear wheel and measure between the inner faces of the dropout.