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It is true, for the Delta variant at least, the latest analysis suggests they are roughly equivalent. A link was posted in here a few days ago by someone of Professor Spiegelhalter's statement that being infected is equal to having the vaccines. He is after all the government's chief...

That happened last time too, but it wasn't true then either, since my contact attempt was still blocked. I had to chase via the surgery each time. .

He's not saying that. His data is all long before the kids were being jabbed, most of it from long before any of the younger groups were. Once one has been infected, the natural protection is at least equal to the vaccines at whatever one's age is. Vaccines then only duplicate what one has...

No, read your link, one has to be contacted with eligibility first. .

That's only after being contacted. All the over 80s I know have been invited with appointments. It's an exact repeat of what happening with both the first and second jabs. They all got their invitations, the second at 8 to 10 weeks after the first. At 84 I had to chase for the first when...

But meaningless again since it's short of data. i.e. whether previously infected by Covid-19. As Professor Spiegelhalter says, that is as effective as vaccination, so one can be unvaccinated but have the low death risk factor of the vaccinated. Possibly even less risk, since it isn't yet known...

So am I for the protection against the ill effects of infection This is the line being sold to us, but they are all antigen effects. As true vaccines to prevent us catching Covid-19 they are all very ineffective. One remains to be discovered yet. Like me, protecting others. I wear one...

My father outlived my mother by over ten years. I think it was relief when the nagging stopped. .

It's fascinating how the successes from researches swing back and forth between favouring mechanical or animal tissue valves. Ultimately neither will win if the holy grail of growing a heart valve from human tissue, even the patient's own tissue, is realised by current research. In fact it has...

I dont care how accurate the 2% figure is, it is still meaningless at our individual levels. For us individually on catching the infection the possibility of death can be 50% or 0.0005% or less, depending on our diverse circumstances, so the 2% has no individual practical meaning. Likewise the...

No there's no rejection issue. The only downside is that the animal tissue valves don't last as well as a mechanical valve, typically lasting from 6 to 14 years, with both luck and age being dominant factors. The younger and more active the individual, the shorter lasting the valve. With a...

I can't, thanks to the NHS arrears, It's pigs or sheep, but they don't fit their valves to us, it's a common misunderstanding due to our simplistic media. The valves are manufactured to a range of sizes from pig or other animal tissue, basically using cartilege, and are called xenografts. A...

Agreed, I wasn't commenting on your use but on the official use of such meaningless statistics as a 1 in 50 average. .

The 1 in 50 is actually meaningless. What makes it meaningless is the lack of an age profile and the way in which cause of death is recorded: Those most likely to die by far are in old age and/or suffering with pre-existing serious conditions that threaten their lives anyway. They are not...

Conclusions I agree with, but you singling this out to report it was undermining my argument on this subject with an irrelevancy, hence my objection. .

He'd have been better off catching Covid at the outset, taking the hit early as I've maintained from the very beginning of the pandemic. Many in here still disagree but the evidence increasingly shows they are wrong. In the absence of vaccines for almost a year, catching Covid early was the...

Still at it Oyster. My comparisons have always been between Sweden and the UK because both made the identical initial mistakes. Sweden's neighbours are completely irrelevant to that since they didn't make the same mistakes. It really is a waste of time trying to seriously discuss anything...

No different from what I've been posting over time and which you've agreed with, but th first sentence above is crucial. Read my latest post just below yours, having not seen yours. and note my conclusion. .

Jonathan, you seem to have come late to the party in not having a clue what my posting has been about from the beginning of the pandemic. Far from being in denial I've been the odd one out with many arguing against my stance. From the beginning I was very critical of the national approach...

Pity you can't do the history though. I was the one first telling the story in here of how hard hit we were at the outset. Not only was London at 2.5 times the national infection rate, Croydon was the worst affected London borough initially for two months. But that was early 2020 and I...