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Brilliant thread! Thanks for all those who so far have been involved! :) My thanks go to all those who support my stance and of course to those that don't, I appreciate and respect your comments and appreciate the platform for letting me put my case. On our website and frame, we clearly...

Hi Dave, of course the Union Flag will be on the three classic Wisper bikes, we are proud to be a British firm. We live in an age where nearly all products that have more than a few components will be made up of parts that come from all over the world. Like many British firms we believe that it...

Hi Dave, thanks for asking, we will continue to use the Union Flag to signify we are a British company, The bikes will now (as per EN15194) have Made In Germany on the frame rather than Made in China. All the best, David

Thanks Dave! :) If anyone can find any photos of me prior to 3rd of May 1955 maybe we could prove I am a copy too! Although I cant imagine who would want to do that!!! :D All the best David

Thanks Flecc, I remember the day well! WEVCO (Wisper Electric Vehicle Co) was the original business name. WEVCO was closed and Wisper Ltd was formed when Douglas Lawson invested in the business. All the best David

Thanks for your kind comments on the original 905e Blew it! At the time it was actually quite radical! I don't remember an Ebay shop but we did experiment with Ebay in the early days, before we started to take on dealers. That, all of a sudden was a long time ago! Do you remember the cow...

Hi Blew it, Mark Rao never worked for Wisper bikes and was never asked to. The Knight Rider was a copy of the original Wisper bike. Mark Rao was a salesman for the company that bought out the factory that made the original Wisper 905 for Wisper UK. He managed to buy a number of Wisper's...

Hi Caph, sorry but it didn't, we designed the original. It did not exist until we designed it. I am not sure how many ways I can put this but we sat down and drew the original and others have copied us. My huge mistake was to take the first page on the Made In China web pages, a lot of...

MOFA bikes are essentially electric mopeds, without the noise and pollution, and I agree the uptake would not be huge especially as a MOFA will cost at least double the price of a moped and will have very restricted range by comparison. However...... I am massively pro choice in all things...

Sorry I did mean opposition, not competition, it is the competition who are against leaving the choice of having a throttle (or not) to the consumer. Mark explains the situation well and succinctly! We at BEBA believe the electric bike with a throttle makes cycling a more inclusive mode...

Thanks Tom! Mark from Hero Eco and I have a meeting with the DfT in a couple of weeks under the BEBA banner. We are trying against stiff competition to persuade them to allow the UK electric bike industry to continue offering the choice of having a throttle to electric bike users in the UK and...

Yes please David we would love to hear what you think, that was a huge oversight, sorry. All the best David

More than 250 people have now responded with a majority choosing a throttle facility on their bike. We will publish results again in November. If anyone has not completed the survey please would you do so as soon as possible. Click on the link below to complete the survey...

Hatti, I have not changed my tune nor the way I feel about your cheap attempts to make money out of our hard work and experience. I was simply trying to take the heat out of the situation, nothing more. You know what I think of you, your company and your business ethics. I would prefer to...

Hi Piotrmacheta, we have decided not to sell the product for a number of reasons including insurance issues. If we do start to sell in the UK or Europe in the future I will let the forum know immediately. Thanks for your interest. Best regards David

Hi Paul, you make very good points, the bikes though they look similar are very different. I have never said that anyone has exactly copied our bike. The fact is though that there is confusion otherwise this post would never have been started. We have suffered more than most with people...

The frame tooling and design costs for the 905e were amortized over a period of time. I have never tried to kid anyone that we were anything but a small business, we pay ourselves hardly anything, probably why I still get annoyed when or bike styles are so blatantly copied! I keep telling...

Yes Dave........ see what you did!!! :D You are of course correct the Grace bikes seemed to be an obvious addition to our range, we were simply being opportunist nothing clever. I am pleased though that the opportunity came along, they are well built and designed, unusual bikes from a good...

Hi Roger, I was careful to say "most" maybe I should have said many? All the best David

I had nothing to do with the old Knight Rider Blew it, we designed the frame in 2004, I have never bought into a factory in China. I was in the our draftsman's office for three days developing the 905e frame as it was called then, it was complicated and hard work and in all took a couple of...