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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sensible tends to be dull. That's why teenagers don't do sensible. .
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No. Jeremy faced with Covid-19 would have dithered and still be dithering with no decisions. That is what he does when faced with a choice between two bad options, so he sensibly does nothing, leaving it to fate. So we'd have effectively ended up like Sweden at doing as little as possible...
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You've got yourself confused, this can be nothing at all to do with a worldwide systematic failure by anyone. It could be to do with a systemic Mexican failure, note the correct word. .
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    True, but in these indecisive areas where there's not enough medical facts for certainty, there's too much room for political pressure to be the final arbiter. And we all know how stubborn Boris Johnson is when getting his own way. .
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ted who took us into the EEC. .
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So implants just under exposed skin could be ok north of latitude 150, lucky Scandinavia and Russia et al. .
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    By almost no-one getting a full vaccine dose so only getting 52% protection on Pfizer's own evidence, then after 21 days that possibly declining continuously week by week until the second jab with no-one knowing if 12 weeks will be too late to have any protection left or sustained. And you...
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No. The sensible and proper thing to do is start using the spare shots / hour capacity on the the remainder of the same tier. What arrogance is it that you think the over 80s need encouraging to get the vaccine? The evidence seems to be the opposite in my experience, in my own area and within...
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, anything goes. I made a mistake with my thread title though, it should have been: "Number 42, the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything". .
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Freudian slip there ! ;) .
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Let me make my own position absolutely clear so we can get the personal aspect and silly historical political accusations out of this vaccine discussion. I am not in the least interested in rushing to get the protection against Covid that any vaccines offer or even getting it at all. That's...
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your brain seems to have stopped working. Nothing in what I posted logically leads to that conclusion. Under a one full dose system the simpler admin with half the numbers could allow strict order by age tier and actual age. However being that strict would hardly be necessary since there are...
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Except that AZ hasn't had any third stage approval and is being risked with omly interim trial results. And it's less effective: The COVID-19 vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca wasn’t the first to be OK’d by regulators in the U.K.—health officials authorized the...
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Confused thinking. In option 1 the second person's risk is not death or hospitalisation: Their greatest risk by far is not catching anything. Their very much smaller risk is catching covid with very mild symptoms. An even smaller risk is catching it with severe symptoms. The final and...
  15. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's not planned but is being considered if shown to be safe. But currently no-one knows, least of all the makers at present. .
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Pfizer have had ro shut down production for a while in order to upgrade to a far higher volume production. So once they get going again th volumes will be far greater than now. .
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    By taking a big gamble with our lives. Most of the jabs have been of the Pfizer vaccine which is between 52% and 57% effective for the 21 days to the second jab after which it becomes about 95% effective. But the government has cancelled that second jab at 21 days, changing it to 12 weeks and...
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Only in part. The grossly excessive deliveries of vaccine to some areas enabling these misuses while other areas are still waiting for their first delivery to start vaccination is solely down to central government. .
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Controlled and monitored social distancing at work and school could well be safer than the first lockdown when many of them were free to socialise much more. And the far worse weather now compared to the very warm spring and early summer of 2020 is keeping them far more indoors and not...
  20. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not posting about such isolated examples though and haven't criticised them. I'm posting about large numbers of 70 year olds in areas where over half the 80 year olds have not even been offered an appointment. And about 70 year olds getting the first jab and then immediately given the...