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The Pfizer experience here looks very positive too, with all 5 million initial doses used up. Like Woosh I'd have preferred to have had that, but with no more Pfizer until April we only have the AZ until then. .

Indeed, I have sonic proximity warnings all around my car, plus all four directions cameras feeding the centre screen according to need, and those are useful. But that's mostly for very low speed stuff like parking. .

Experience of what actually happens in practice? I have almost all that on my car, but have much of it switched off because it's such a nuisance. Take lane departure for example. Like all of us the most often used roads are those local leaving our homes. With a huge volume of parking on...

Give it time! In many areas like mine we've only just started to use the AZ as the Pfizer ran out. I wouldn't expect people to be dropping dead as they walked out of the vaccination centres. ;) Also don't foget we are speaking of a younger age group, the Pfizer having gone into the 80s and...

Not quite. Two people died during the AZ trials, not necessarily due to the vaccine but comparing with the Israeli experience, given the relatively small scale of the AZ trials. As Woosh and I have remarked, the AZ is still only approved for emergency use. The current widespread use we've...

Well we got the answer on the ITV program I recommended. The PCR test cannot differentiate between the live virus and the dead particles left behind long after being infected. Both record a positive. Your nephew will have to wait until he has finally lost the dead particles before recording a...

Perhaps you should learn to read. The decisions are made by politicians, not professors. .

You really are being very silly. None of us in here has spotted flaws and errors in vaccine development and testing and wouldn't pretend to. We have spotted some flaws and errors that the experts have reported and have informed ourselves accordingly and commented on them. Being watchful...

Back on the thread subject, leaving the EU, I posted this on 8th January 2016, six months before the referendum: "On present indications I think the final referendum result could be so close that it won't resolve anything." Prophetic words indeed as the 4529 argumentative pages of this thread...

That seems to be the case with everyone around here who had the Pfizer. With only three accounts, not enough gathered on the AZ so far to compare, though two with some side effects, a little unpleasant but not in any way severe enough to be frightened of. .

Yes I have, the short cuts below used to give "emergency approval" for its use but then its use adopted universally, not emergency at all. Even now we've seen no evidence of further trials, only reassuring statements that all is well. Meanwhile some countries afe taking a more cautious...

I don't think any of us have objected, we've just been cynical about the motivation for holding the trials. Rightly so, given the rag-tag way the AZ vaccine was tested to get emergency use approval. .

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They are still breaking the rules that apply to all of us by having the matches. And I don't trust either the testing or sport itself. Remember Lance Armstrong and the over a decade of testing for drugs he supposedly had? .

Highly unlikely though. Once it's in the sticky mucus at the rear of the nasal passage it's not going to just float out. It will almost certainly end up being discharged with the mucus in the usual ways, either blown or sneezed out into a handkerchief or discharged through the digestive tract...

I do wonder though. It's not ok to attend a very small family gathering with normal personal space, but ok to take part in the Six Nations series and wrestle in intimate contact while breathing very heavily with many more other players in several matches. I think it's the game's management...

Seriously, we do need a different more consistent test instead of spending many millions on current mass testing to not find out what is happening. All we are finding out at present is that lots of people who are uninfected with Covid-19 do have the virus temporarily stuck in nasal passage mucus...

Then watch on Freeview +1 at 8.30pm or watch later on the ITV player instead of ITV live. Or watch Bob Ross on the BBC i-Player later, giving Bob's paint a chance to dry. .

This evening at 7.30 pm on ITV there's a "Tonight" program questioning the efficacy of the testing regime since so many experts are also expressing serious doubts about it. Plus me of course in this thread ! .

Indeed, they dislike the truthfulness of using the word expedience. .