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I agree with all of this post, but comment as follows: People outnumber Motor Vehicles: This isn't relevant though, what is relevant is the over 80% who are in some way car dependent and almost the whole population who are dependent on cars, vans, buses and trucks. Act against them and you...

It's the same thing! Evolution derives from nature's DNA experiments. The Dutch are still experimenting, mainly in smaller towns and village with many variations, trying to find what is best, not just for cycling in isolation but for all ways of living including cycling and motor traffic...

All democracy is elitist because the majority get their way! What you are advocating is a dictatorship where to solve their roads problem the powers enforce against the interests of the majority. "Build it and they will come", isn't only simple, it's simplistic. Any government taking your...

Playing with words., evolving/experimenting. Both indicate they have no definitive answers, and the huge variation in schemes there shows it only too clearly. .

The Dutch who are far from stupid list them as accidents. I'm quite sure they know how to do post mortems. Precisely, so no possible justification or anything like that roundabout at present. .

It's a matter of proportions Swizz. Equally the Dutch have nothing to teach us with our traffic levels which they have never experienced in their whole roads history. That roundabout simply will not work here at our present proportions of cyclists, motor traffic and pedestrians. Indeed when...

While true, they are still experimenting and have yet to find definitive solutions. Despite all of their separation of bicycles from motor vehicles, they still suffer 200 cyclist deaths per year, almost double ours, though admittedly with far more cycling. Astonishingly an average of 80 of...

Definitely true, the Dutch have excellent overpasses for biycles too and clearly haven't found which are the best solutions yet. .

Although in the very long term some of what you post above will be true, A.I. is very long way off, as are automatically driven cars. The promoters of this dreamworld are already beginning to admit these have proved far more difficult than they ever thought. I won't even see the first traces...

Fully agree. It just about works there because 70% of them cycle and only about 20% of them drive cars regularly. Here with only a small minority cycling and well over half the population driving it would cause many accidents and could paralyse our roads in some places. .

Definitely illegal and impossible to register. .

What's with you and all this race track nonsense? The Tesla model S is not a race car. It's a five seater road saloon car, sold by road car dealers for use in road car conditions. In this country if you value your driving licence that means keeping it below 100 mph, below two thirds of what...

That's the Yanks for you, they sometimes still use the discredited NEDC system. If you want more accurate buy European where the WLTP ranges are accurate in summer conditions. But e-car users have to accept that cold weather ranges can be much lower. That doesn't stop Norway, which reaches...

No it's not, the real point is that there's nowhere you can drive at 155 mph in the UK, or most other countries. These days you're lucky if you find a motorway where you can keep up 80mph. If they aren't clogged with traffic they are being dug up. Today's e-cars have all the performance and...

That's just not true, even the old Tesla model S has a top speed of 155 mph, 2.3 seconds 0 to 60mph, up to 400 miles range and a high speed charging network. Anything i.c. cars can do is easily matched and beaten by today's e-cars, and much more pleasantly too. .

I don't know, but it's full speed is I believe 267 mph if my memory is right. So it shouldn't be so thirsty when just cruising at 200 mph (under 75% of top speed) and I suppose an auxilliary tank would be easy to rig. .

F1 cars are not production ICE cars. The nearest to that for 200 mph over 200 miles would probably be the Bugatti Veyron, though as they are hand built one by one, barely qualify as production cars. .

Precisely what I was forecasting and the purpose of my post when I started this Brexit thread 81,199 posts and 4,061 web pages ago. Here's the link .

Trouble is the knowledge of most about e-cars stems from the furious anti e-car campaign when they first appeared to be realistic 10 years ago with the Nissan Leaf. That was from an unholy alliance of much of the motor industry who didn't want change and the large sector of the population who...

Indeed, and hardly any do. The average mileage of all car drivers in the uk across both genders is 140 miles per week., which for e-cars means as little as a charge a week for most drivers. This works out to about 5 kW a day per car at present, mostly drawn in the night when there's plenty of...