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  1. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What would count as being victorious? More than 50% of the vote?
  2. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Unfair. He possibly has a role. He can take the letter withdrawing A50 and deliver it - provided he also agrees never to set foot in the UK ever again. Nor appear on any media.
  3. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A classic response to that is to suggest it is because of an ageing population. Or more demanding patients going to see GPs unnecessarily. Or the obesity crisis. Or the surge in diabetes. Or illegal drug taking. Or overburdening GPs with paperwork. Or "fast food". Or being "couch potatoes". One...
  4. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And if some accusations are untruths, well, live by the fraud, die (at least politically) by the fraud.
  5. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How much money would it take to place bets which shift the odds substantially?
  6. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    To confirm, Guardian also: Brexit: European elections in UK definitely going ahead, says Lidington – live news Or, as "H" would say: Brexit: European elections in UK definately going ahead, says Lidington – live news
  7. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And all the people he has been found guilty of offences against? Do they feel the same way? Do they believe that the original offences have been expunged by the punishment courts have meted out to him?
  8. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Police investigating Ukip candidate for Jess Phillips rape comments European election candidate Carl Benjamin has added to original comments on YouTube
  9. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Or, a bit further down the page: And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of?
  10. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The two of us, We both agree it's gonna be, The two of us, When people talk they smile and say they know it won't last.
  11. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How do you get the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Muslim Council of Britain to agree? Discuss Farage. Nigel Farage under fire over 'antisemitic tropes' on far-right US talkshow Exclusive: Brexit party leader referred to ‘new world order’ in interviews with Alex Jones...
  12. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Also, I have been discussing his words. Those words might say, or imply, things that he would not actually do. But simply using of those words, in the way he has, is vile.
  13. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Did WS become, umm, less attractive, when he switched from being Liberal?
  14. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Some might consider it a bit on the glass houses front, perhaps: "Yes, but in the morning I'll be sober but you and I will still be ugly".
  15. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The use of the word "even" in context appears to imply rape is insignificant. (That is, it reads as dismissive as in this made-up example: No, I wouldn't shake hands with her, why, I wouldn't even rape her.) Further, he then suggests that he could decide to but that the second reason for not...
  16. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The way it was said clearly implies that the reason he did not rape her was her unattractiveness to him. Not that rape is absolutely WRONG. Even if dismissed as "figure of speech" or whatever, it is gross.
  17. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That would also be a pretty damning thing for a candidate for public office to declare.
  18. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Possible inference, indeed, one that is hard to avoid, is that he would rape her if she were attractive to him. Deeply unpleasant and also threatening both to her and to anyone else.
  19. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Do we know they did not? Pig-headed politicians (not initially intended to be a Cameron reference) often ignore excellent advice.
  20. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But did the imprint say Lib Dems?