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Unfortunately no. The £55 SVA throttle is only for Great Britain, but the other items are for the S class pedelecs which we can't have in Great Britain. They only exist in three EU countries and Switzerland and they can't have throttles. .

That one is no use to you I'm afraid, it's only a crank pedelec controller for a front wheel hub motor that they marketed at one time. It has no motor of its own. Bikes with Panasonic motors at that time had C or F appended to their names to indicate whether front wheel motor or centre (crank)...

She scarcely had any other option, the resignation of Andrea Leadsom forced that. She is the Leader of the House and was due to present May's deal again. .

A perfect summing up of the true position. It's so sad that so few realise it. .

You're in Dan, riding on Wellhouse Lane: Map Link .

If sold as an EAPC pedelec it is illegal, since it breached the exemption. If a machine comes with readily available rider controls, such as on the handlebars, which can defeat any exemption conditions, it is not an EAPC pedelec, and the DfT throttle ruling proves that to be absolutely so. For...

I have defined my meaning by saying full acting throttles, having the same meaning as twist and go. My last post on this link showed that again. So I'm not arguing against that, and anyway, it still breaches the no power without pedalling exemption requirement, so still illegal. .

That's brilliant news. Perhaps pedelecs should supply them some flyers to hand out with the bikes, we might get more on the map then! .

That's right, there is no such thing as supplying an illegal vehicle. Is is however an offence to falsely describe the vehicle as an EAPC pedelec if it is not. .

As already explained, I mean a legal technicality, breaching the pedelec exemption in the type approval legislation, thus rendering the machine a motor vehicle in law and no longer a pedelec. Thre DfT definition on pedelecs with added full throttles proves that to be so, defining them as L1e-A...

Agreed, but that isn't my purpose and as I've observed, since the illegality is and always has been so widespread across both trade and consumers, I'm not targetting anyone. My purpose as I clearly explained at the outset of this discussion was to prevent posts from confusing the issue, giving...

Opportunism. .

He could be right. Tata will leave if we exit the EU and we'll be so poor we won't be able to buy in steel so will have to make our own. .

Which of course breaches the exemption. I'm not trying to place any blame onto suppliers, just observing the technical breaches of pedelec law that have long existed and still do. This all started with my correctly answering someone's academic question, an answer which the DfT's definition...

The password is the difference, it is an addition to the machine to get access to possible illegality and therefore a modification. So without the password the bike complies. It baffles me why you are not understanding this difference. Of course changing the settings break the law, but what...

Good idea. .

Agreed, and as I've often made clear, I don't care what others do to their pedelecs, it's none of my business. And I'm not too bothered by what conditions the legislators set, it's their business not mine. But as a matter of principle everyone should know what the law is and what it's intended...

Not so, it is demonstrably the DfT's interpretation as their ruling on throttles shows. If a pedelec as supplied can defeat any of the three basic conditions for type approval exemption by the use of the supplied rider controls, it is technically not legal to use it. That is why the throttle...

None of the above, my case is proven by the post you complain of, but you just wanted to ignore that. See the last paragraph of this post .

A magnet moved away from the designed and supplied condition is a modification, no matter what the cause. It's not a "button" available to the rider as supplied. Therefore it is legal to ride the bike with the magnet in the correct position. The paragraph below part copied from my post above...