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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There's ever increasing pressure from many quarters for one, so I wouldn't bet against it. If it included a Remain option the EU would facilitate it of course. .
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That support and government nominal majority was lost for the most important government measure in 46 years. Had it not been, she could have put her deal to parliament with a three line whip on her party. While that might not have got the deal though, she would not have suffered the...
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No forgotten, but she has a duty to protect the realm so could act to break the impasse and enable progress to Brexit to continue I think our first past the post system is a form of monarchy, making it impossible to break out into a proper democracy of real choice. .
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No it isn't. How many times do I have to say "at any time for any reason". That example was the one I chose for my post, and the Queen could equally choose it if she wished. Not only have I made this clear, I've also made clear twice that this DUP aspect is not important in respect of the...
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I replied to this: "No your notion that the Queen could intervene at present is waffle - you have to wait until the Gov has no clear majority in the House." She can intervene at any time and doesn't have to wait for anything. I've repeatedly made that clear and it is not waffle. .
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not waffle, fact, intervention can be at any time on any grounds. See my post on this link. .
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is absolutely untrue. This is the position now in the Fixed Term Parliament Act: "The royal prerogative to dissolve Parliament was abrogated by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011. Section 6(1) of the Act however specifically states that the monarch's power to prorogue Parliament is not...
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, that's nonsense. Blocking such an important measure is not "total and lasting support" as you put it. But as said, the DUP position is not important in respect of the Queens power to act in the current circumstances. .
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wrong as usual, she can. She has the sovereign right to prorogue parliament. .
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Since not supporting the government's deal. It's not important though in respect of the Queen acting. She can do so anyway in a major issue such as this where the country's future is in jeopardy and parliament is locked into an impasse. Link back to post .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Queen can break the impasse. She can summon TheresaMay to the palace and remind her that she granted her the right to form a government on the basis that she had a majority with DUP support, and now that support has been removed and majority lost. The Queen lost the right to dissolve...
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I thought the narrow narrative was yours with your desperate attempt to make a bigger Leave margin. .
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Irrelevant. On the basis of your block vote submission it was a draw, two countries voting to Remain, two countries to Leave. Since very marginal Leaver Wales quickly changed its mind, that would be three to Remain, one to Leave if the vote was taken again. .
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes I agree, but far from as as close as the Tories are to that. .
  15. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'd have given an agree to all that except the last bit. If the Tory party splits into two, Corbyn and Labour will win easily. .
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Some would snipe but I think enough would accept a further Leave vote, I would. Away from those active on the fringe as here, the bulk of the public are rather fed up with the whole issue and interviews show how ambivalent most of them are now. They just want an end to it, whatever that might...
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The House is overwhelmingly against No Deal. Could be 600 to 50 against. .
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry you lost out, like you I thought a smaller margin, possibly getting under 100 votes. Never expected anything on this scale. .
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Unless we kick the can down the road with an article 50 delay. .
  20. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The vote was 432 to 202, a 230 vote defeat. .