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Very true. But don't tell the Brexiters, the last thing most of them want to hear is an immigration solution! .

Only at the higher speed range. In the lower speed stages up to about 13 mph an internally geared 250 watt classified motor will be quicker accelerating. That's partly because they have much better torque then and partly because they aren't actually only 250 watts, more commonly about 500...

No, there's no direct relationship. It's only the current delivery capability of a battery that counts and the one battery will be fine in this case. As d8veh said above, that type of motor is more suited to speed than climbing, and at speed the current demands are relatively low. .

We seem to be carbon copies in these respects, except that at age 11 I started the paper rounds and a Saturday butchers round plus working in the shop in the afternoons. Like you since then I've never needed for money, except one brief period at the start of National Service before getting...

Plus higher productivity and lower wages. .

Yes, I knew you hadn't been around for a long time, the forum's active membership continues to churn all the time with past names occasionally returning as you have now. Martin seems to have largely dropped out of active posting, his policy of only servicing the Bosch equipped bikes he sells...

I agree, but there's little pressure on such as Nissan to move while in the EU. They came here for big startup subsidies and have a government very favourable to them, just the sort of environment companies like. The border consequences of Brexit could dramatically change that status. .

Why not, stuff the future, we won't be the ones suffering it, so why should we care. I'm like that with Brexit, whatever effect it has will take a long time to appear and put any suffering that might result beyond my experience, since I'm in my 81st year. That makes my interest in the subject...

I agree, I regard the Kalkhoff bikes as some of the best when they had the Panasonic drive units. It was just the adoption of the Daum unit, renamed as Impulse that was the evolving disaster that scuppered their reputation, plus their slow reaction when that occurred. .

The only evidence I've offered is our proven poor past peformance, namely our continuous decline and comprehensive loss of industry and commerce from the end of WW2 until we joined the EU. That's fact, showing how chilly it can be outside of the EU protected market. What I cannot see is any...

It was abundantly clear that I used that Ford example as an illustration that it was easy to move a large car plant. To make it even clearer I gave the separate reasons why Nissan et al might move, which would be due to Brexit. .

I confidently forecast this at the time of the referendum for all the car building operations in England if we leave the EU. Most are just assembly plants so easily and cheaply moved. Even a bigger one like Nissan can easlily move. Ford once had 40,000 working at Dagenham, but now it's only...

Actually no, it's a different one, but of the same person! Recy did ask us to lighten up! .

I'm all for that, I've only ever ridden in normal street clothes all my life, so flip-flops are fine. Some don't bother with clothes:

I'm at the top edge of Surrey, the trees on the North Downs boundary seen from my lounge window, but I do little riding these days for various reasons. Mostly walking in that countryside now. I haven't kept fully up to date with the new e-bike models, too many of them in a constant stream of...

You are doomed to disappointment, here's an example near to our hearts. We are still going to be bound by EU rules, due to the impossibility of unravelling the last 44 years. That's what Theresa May's inclusion bill is about, converting all the adopted EU laws into UK ones in a single swipe...

I agree that I wouldn't have liked Clinton either, as here, all the options were rubbish. But the two EU courts have done nothing but good for us, putting right so many long term wrongs and I fear for the future without them. And you shouldn't believe the lie that we couldn't control...

Strong? Hardly, many of the EU countries have little to lose since they don't trade much with us. And Germany has said it can accept the loss of our market. We know that's true since they lost more in the 2008 recession and shrugged that off easily. The 27 EU countries could walk out on us...

Like they did before we joined the EU, and what a disastrous long period of decline that was, losing all of our industry and much of our international commerce. Soon you'll be able to watch the Little Englanders do the same all over again, assuming we do actually exit in the end. .

For the worse, much, much worse. .