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there is little doubt that the EU will take us to the ECJ for their money. They seem to bank on us that we don't have the stomach for a fight nor job losses.

yes, I think we'll see in a few months how bl**dy difficult the EU can make leaving the club. I reckon it's worse than leaving a timeshare scheme.

there may be a point that remainers on this forum demand a high standard of proof from brexiters and not vice versa.

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I did read the FT article a few days ago. At first, I did not take it seriously because it was their own figures. It's only when the story has spread to all the main media and then I watched the expression of Mr Juncker when he was asked a direct question about it that I came to the conclusion...

OG, the 100 billion bill is widely reported in the press, not just the tories rags, but also all the broadsheets like the independent. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-divorce-bill-100bn-eu27-demands-contributions-a7714436.html I don't think it is vapourware. It...

I think the estimate for a hit on GDP if we fall back to WTO is a 2% drop in GDP that will eventually be recovered in a few years (less than 10). Sticking up two fingers to the EU is priceless.

we will soon see how far and how much the EU wants to load the divorce bill. I have less and less faith in the EU wanting an FTA with us. They know that is what we want, so they put it last. Nothing stops them to negotiate FTA in parallel - the EU does not lack of resources like we do. They have...

I don't think falling back to WTO is going to be as problematic as giving to EU's demands and continue to be bullied for the foreseeable future. Take the car sector. We buy more than 2.69 million cars last year. Most have to be made here after brexit so falling back to WTO does not mean massive...

I don't think we want any of the benefits. We want out and a deal on trade that will be of mutual benefit. The more I think about it, the more I think we should just walk away and look for business elsewhere.

The only number you want is how many AHs. You pay for the AHs after all.

They want to take us to the cleaners. We should just walk away.

Are you saying that only the EU can offer the remedy and no UK government can? May I put it to you that a lot of Labour voters much prefer voting for Mrs May on account of her position on brexit. Try at least to understand them.

OK. My apology to the OP.

I don't see the UK's position as stupid and unrealistic. Membership has a cost. On balance, the cost of staying outweighs the benefits. The EU's top echelons are totally convinced that political union is a must have that 17 million people have said no to. We will soon be faced with a choice, to...

by the time you add a new battery, the difference in price between a second hand wisper step through and a new Woosh Santana has narrowed a great deal. Bike components have moved on a great deal in the last 7 years.

I don't think we refuse to pay incurred debts, the so called 'comptes a rendre'. The EU wants to add to that programs that the UK is supposed to have agreed to. They are promises made on the basis of our continuation to being a member. For the UK to pay and have no say, I think it is not going...

I believe there is a faction within the EU that wants a binary choice, the only alternative to brexit is no brexit. They mean either a hard brexit or no brexit. It will take us many years to sort out alternative trades to replace a reduction in EU trade but we must not give in to blackmail. I...

Juncker and Barnier could have denied it, but they don't. I watched Mr Juncker being asked a direct question about the 100 billions on TV, he chose not to answer. There seems to be a faction at the EU wanting the UK to leave without a deal because any deal in their eye may be interpreted that...