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Hello BK, The Bermuda can pull you up 8%-10% hills on throttle. The Big Bear has about 10% more pulling power. If you live in a very hilly area, then Big Bear is better.

I don't try to denigrate the Q128H. That 48V demo bike was my favourite bike to ride around Southend for a while. If I appear to denigrate it, I certainly do not mean to say it's not worth buying. The Q128H is a smart and civilized motor. It is quiet and accelerates well and as you know...

do pop in for a cuppa one of these Saturdays...

Hi frank, do you still ride the Tonaro?

I have at the moment a second hand Woosh Krieger with only 85 miles on the clock, will be sold with 1 year guarantee for £749. It is a crank drive, excellent on hills. We are not far from you. May be worth a look? http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?secondhand

I think that depends on the metal of the bolts and nuts. If they are made of stainless steel, then no. I think the whole pack needs to be shrink-wrapped to retain the contact pressure and reduce airflow.

I don't think that the Q128H will take more than 800W for long.

the Q128H pulls 800W from the battery, the KT LCD displays the power. I tested the Q128H about 30 months ago, pitching it against the SWX02 in terms of power and weight. The Q128H has a bigger reduction ratio, that attracted me to it in the first place but at the end, I went for SWX02 because...

I suggest you check out the Woosh Karoo, it is capable of doing 40 miles runs because its smaller motor consumes less battery than the Rio. A few people ride it on this sort of distance. We don't support derestriction though. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?karoo

The saddle post is 350mm but we can change that for a 400mm post if the customer needs it. The battery has a lock and two keys. You can unlock and remove the battery.

the Rio has 44cm frame, suitable for 5ft5 to 6ft2, so looking best in the middle 5ft10 to 5ft11 we can fit a 400mm saddle post if you are 6ft and over. We'll have a larger Rio in July for taller riders.

Simon, I have one in black, 48V 201RPM ex demo if you are interested, PM me. It does not pull more than the BPM though.

all I can say is the OP has plenty of information to make his choice. I would hesitate to supply a kit to someone knowing that it's his transport and he needs a reliable bike for 12k miles a year.

Andy Bluenoes said his 1000W Stealth with mugduards, rack and lights weighs 28kgs. If his battery is swapped for Lithium iron phosphate, you'll add another 1kg. It's a lot of unsprung weight. Even then, it's not enough for 20 miles. Don't forget the OP will have to charge twice a day, 600 times...

DD kits are too greedy on battery, then he'll need Lithium iron phosphate for the number of charges over two years, the whole thing is very heavy for his Giant Roam 4 with 700c wheels, which is a cheap £350 bike with front and rear V-brakes. Bosch CX is in my view fast and durable. It may not...

that's 40 miles a day, 12,000 miles a year. I think you would be better off with a Bosch CX motor because it is better built than Chinese crank drive motors.

Do you know that motor is the same used on the Woosh Krieger and Santana CD? http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?krieger

We have one of those kits on an 18" frame crossbar bike, 48V 11AH, ex demo, if anyone is interested.

Our traditional customers are quite capable of looking after their bikes, but as the market grows, you see more and more people buying a cheap bike as a transport to go from A to B because the bus service does not work all hours. They are the ones who need a bike that does not get a puncture...

good find. My HDB use the same switches.