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I think brexit will start as hard, there is bound to be rancour and mistrust, and will get softer as time goes by. 5 years from now, people will look back and wonder what the fuss is all about.

That's a nice one, AKW. Do you think that the market is mainly top end e-motorbikes?

I have a demo electric motorbike here in Southend for the last 7 years, which would make a nice two seater or deliveroo kind of bike. What kind of money do you think these e-motorbikes would sell for?

so true. Computer stuff cost a fortune in those days. You could nearly buy a flat for the price of some early PCs. I used to sell PC hard drives for more than £1,000 a pop and the price of SCO Unix and Novell licences made me want to cry.

unless Mrs May's government is booted out, then yes, I do. If brexit is reverse, then there is nothing to argue about.

When I started my PC business, it was also easy. I bought a second hand Commodore Pet 2001 in 1980, played with it for a few days. As it did not have much RAM onboard (only 8k were onboard), I ran out of things to do with it. I knocked up an add-on board for my PC and took it to my local...

Oldtom, You seem to have a very skeptical view of anyone who does not agree with you. After brexit, what do you think we should do? accord the same preferential treatment to EU citizens like before?

That's easy. I blame the educationalists. Not enough tough love for their pupils. BTW, this guy may not have been to sixth form.

@oldtom, Yes, flecc said that and yet, he also said that fellow Europeans can justify preferential treatment. How about equal treatment for all immigrants after brexit?

He may be telling his story the way he felt. Farage made political capital out of it, he is the one to blame, not that youth.

AFAIK, a lot of young people start off doing occasional jobs. He did not say 'I never had a job'. People are entitled to bias. He may consider himself very willing.

The fact part. I also fact checked everything I post. Do you?

There are about 600,000 young people between the age of 16-24 currently unemployed. His story is believable.

do they have internal cable routing?

oldtom, Linking brexit to atrocity perpetrated elsewhere is an exaggeration. I did link exaggerations to readers of the Express.

There are advantages to big businesses that sell into more than one EU country but little or even negative to small businesses that don't. You may disagree with that view but there are millions of small businesses in the latter category. From the individual point of view, relations with Europe...

You are quite wrong on this. I am a lot more attached to the continent than most participants in this thread.

So tell me why should EU citizens be treated any better than those who come from outside the EU after brexit?

I only pointed out a fact. So I warn that a lot of the 1 million economically inactive EU citizens may lose their benefits in the future after brexit . You may not like it, fair enough. Find a valid argument. Resorting to insults adds nothing to the debate.

ONS 2015 European Union citizens in the UK 6. According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) Labour Force Survey estimates for 2015, there are 3.3 million EU citizens in the UK – 1.6 million from the EU14, 1.3 million from the EU8, 300,000 from Romania and Bulgaria and the remainder from...