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But the sad thing is that it's the ordinary people of London who wanted to remain, and we are not an elite, we are just ordinary people who aren't despising anyone. We live with a far higher degree of immigration that anyone else in the UK. Less than half the London population are white...

I do understand as I have friends with them and have played with a couple of theirs. They are brilliant for those who want or need what they offer, but I simply don't want one for the reasons I've mentioned previously a few times, some examples below: I have a mobile but never have it with me...

There's an easy way to solve the problem now, see the new thread I've posted on this link .

But there is some possible goods news in the new thread I've just posted on this link. .

This is particularly addressed to our trade members and the Bicycle Association who can now approach the DfT on this matter. There is now no legal need for the DfT to set up a future path to type approve throttle equipped pedelecs. That is only made necessary by the type approval law in the EU...

Despite the utterances from Junker et al, I don't think there will be bullying, since the mutual trade is a common interest. However, the EU countries are not going to allow any advantage from our move, so I'm sure they will continue to insist on the basics of free movement and a GDP...

I think the majority of them did, blaming the EU for our governmental policies. The Welsh in particular will regret their decision since I can't see a chancellor of any political persuasion replacing all the EU regional grants to Wales. .

London's independence has been mooted here previously. Since we currently support so much of the rest of the UK, London would be incredibly wealthy as a separate entity. But of course with that certainty, it would never be politically allowed. However, our strong vote for the EU here has...

But looking at it this way can be too simplistic. In our mutual trade, we buy cars from the mainland EU and equally produce cars for them. If BMW etc no longer sell to us and Nissan etc no longer sell to them, that means a big reduction in the employed on each side, so we both end up worse...

I'm sure the market will take a big dive today. There are no positive indicators. .

I'm not sure about the status of that now that we have fixed term parliaments in law? It might need a Commons majority vote for approval, and I'm not sure Labour would feel ready for one. Their smart move might be to let the tories suffer what's coming in the short term. That could suit the...

I don't see Boris Johnson as a statesman either but he could have his use later. Meanwhile David Davies or whoever takes over the party will have a tough remaining term and get the blame for difficult times ahead, so might not be a good choice to fight the next general election. That's when...

Perhaps he won't have to, after a foolish national decision, having a clown in charge seems a natural progression. .

Possibly not, he's lost his Brussels job but won't like the Norway style deal we'll inevitably be negotiating, so he may see that as a reason to continue in UK politics. On the other hand, he did resign from UKIP once before, so may hand over to Douglas Carswell to do that job, since he is at...

It would be great with a following wind, no motor needed with that sail. .

On a mischievous note, I wonder how many postal votes came in with a Romanian stamp on the envelope. ;) .

I agree, I posted previously that I thought the turnout would be over 60%, and even a bit over 70% wouldn't surprise me. There's far more interest in this than in a general election. The only turnout problem I can see is the weather, with showers forecast between 5 pm and 8 pm in my area. I...

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll keep on coming to you! :D .

Yes, it's certainly been an interesting debate. I must admit I didn't know what I was starting some 52 pages ago when I initiated this thread. :eek: . It's made the Helmet threads look like friendly chit-chat! As I've said before, I'm not personally concerned how the vote goes, since there's...

Yes, I fully agree. It's why I remarked the NHS "sometimes" expanded with the population increase. It's an intrinsic problem with our parliamentary system that when re-election is due, costs can be avoided to be left to a following government on the offchance that the other lot will be in...