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  1. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    49p as at this morning in one supermarket. .
  2. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    No, that is still just the type approval legislation that I've already quoted as being 2002/EC/24 when it was passed into law. The EU has been doing a tidying up of that to include the later amendments, republishing it under the new 2013 number. Although that dealt with some of the delaying...
  3. flecc

    Brighten up the forum a little :)

    Keeping to my wildlife theme, this shy great spotted woodpecker might do?
  4. flecc

    pm

    My thought too when I first saw it. Perhaps someone thinks we are chatterboxes. :rolleyes: .
  5. flecc

    Realative AH

    As laid down by Peukert's Law, the ability of a battery to deliver all it's charge content depends on the discharge rate, the higher the discharge, the lower the amount that can be used. SLA batteries suffer quite severely from this, so in a high discharge application like an e-bike motor, as...
  6. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    In theory you will not be protected from prosecution for having a 250 watt rated machine until the law is changed, so neither I nor anyone else will give such a guarantee that you are totally protected. But I'm prepared to state that such a prosecution being brought is highly unlikely, and that...
  7. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Yes, the DfT have made clear their implacable opposition to having over 250 watts in the legal pedelec class. 250 watts is their final limit for unregistered two wheelers.
  8. flecc

    Student Interested in Electric Vehicles

    Whatever you set out to create Sparky12, make sure it fits into an EU legal two wheeler classification. We've seen a number of projects expensively brought to fruition which have been unusable simply because they are illegal on the roads. Best of luck with your ambitions. .
  9. flecc

    Is this correct

    Don't take any notice, it's not correct anyway! UK EAPC law requires e-bikes to be plated by the manufacturer, the plate affixed to the bike, not the motor, and in an easily read position. The plate should bear the motor maximum continuous power, the battery voltage and the weight of the...
  10. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Yes. The UK's EAPC law includes throttle independent control and always has done. The waiver is additional and quite specific as you've seen, it concerns only the permission to have 250 watts power rating. It also stresses that the use of an "off-road" button is definitely not permitted, that...
  11. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    No, they are indeed the standard 250 watt rated machines Phil. There are at least four police forces currently using 250 watt e-bikes, probably more but I don't remember all of them. None of the e-bikes supplied for trial or regular use by police forces over the last eight years have been...
  12. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Not so, have you even read my previous post? The doubt exists only in the imagination. The type approval law excludes 250 watt pedelecs from being considered as motor vehicles. That is the most recent UK law on the subject. Add to that the clear official statements of government policy and...
  13. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Phil, the best guarantee is the embarrassing position the DfT is in, one I exploited to assist in preventing the potential prosecution I mentioned previously. This is it: The EAPC law states that anything over 200 watts means the e-bike is a motor vehicle which must be type approved for...
  14. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Further to my above post, the notion that some have expressed that a private prosecution might be brought is frankly silly. The CPS would follow official policy, and that is clearly for harmonisation at 250 watts with no contrary action meanwhile. Those seeing problems in the current status...
  15. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Thank you for posting this link dmsims, very helpful. Personally I was entirely happy with the original assurances, in part because I played a part with BEBA in the steps which prevented the police prosecution, an action leading to this measure, so I knew the police were blocked from action...
  16. flecc

    Speeding... Guardian article

    Obviously some crossed wires in the DfT. Whoever gave him that information was obviously not aware of this from the DfT: Summary of Government response to consultation 2.The Department for Transport has considered the responses to this consultation and supports recommendations to harmonise...