905se City: From box to riding - my experience.

[rog_london]

Some additional comments:
The red light was on most of the way home but it felt like there was ample power, although the last mile was a bit less punchy.

Hi Vikki (and any other Wisper owners)

The three lights on the right handlebar don't mean a lot when you're moving. The green one comes on when the battery is close to its fully-charged voltage. The yellow one comes on about half a volt below that. The red one is on all the time the bike has power.

You should not be using motor power if you want those lights to mean anything. You may well find that even with a fully charged battery the green and possibly the yellow lights will both go out if you're driving the motor hard. Take a look as you're running downhill at a good speed (or stop pedalling and shut the throttle for a few seconds).

Rog.

 

[Vikki]

Aye, this I understand which is why I'm not concerned. At standstill it showed yellow meaning half full after 15 miles so I'm happy. I should have said 'red light only' earlier.

Bikey was only marginally less punchy but I think that was because I hadn't realised how strong the wind was that was against me. Thinking back it was pretty stiff as people I passed with ease looked like they were close to blowing a few muscles.

I did have a section at the end of my post on battery monitoring but decided to remove it before posting. But yes, battery terminal voltage is only an off-load indication of charge state. The instant you draw power you get voltage drop. I noticed in an earlier post/thread you said you were into electronics - snap. I'm an electronic engineer by profession.

Best regards.

Vikki.

 

[rog_london]

I noticed in an earlier post/thread you said you were into electronics - snap. I'm an electronic engineer by profession.

Best regards.

Vikki.

Hi Vikki

Well, that'll teach me not to talk down to a woman (G). In my defence, it wasn't aimed specifically at your goodself.

Rog.

 

[Vikki]

No need to defend yourself my kind sir, your information was solid and reliable and of value to any one reading it I certainly appreciated it.

Best regards.

Vikki.

 

[Vikki]

You said it had a chain guard? I assume that this is a Wisper upgrade ~ can we buy it to retrofit ?

It's a really nice one and I notice that it's not on the City in the pictures on the Wisper website. It should be as I see it as an essential on a city bike especially for the nice chap that's running out of oil-free trousers

Best regards.

Vikki.

 

[the_killjoy]

Vikki, can you post a picture of it ?

 

[Vikki]

City chainguard.

Vikki, can you post a picture of it ?

Here you go, a piccy of the chainguard.

 

[Vikki]

One thing I have noticed: With the thinner tyres and the lower rolling resistance this bike encourages you to pedal. It gets you up to speed quickly and then you get the feeling you want to pedal to push the speed up. On a heavy bike you struggle to add much and it sort of feels like redundant effort, but not on the lighter bikes. Trouble is, a few minutes of pushing the envelope and I'm letting Bikey take the strain for a few minutes while I catch my breath. I'm nearly always on full throttle by the way.

This is what I like about electric bikes (with power on demand). You can do some light pedalling to assist the motor then you can push it to get some exercise and then, when your wind is gone (I am quite unfit) you can let the bike take over while you recover. Do that on a non-electric and you coast to a stop. I see these machines as a blessing as it means I can get to work without using a car or the train and it's generally quicker. Heavy peak time traffic or a long walk to the train station. Bikey is often quicker over the 7.5 mile journey.

 

[eddieo]

Here you go, a piccy of the chainguard.

That's a nice addition.....the crank looks more solid then on my Wisper as well. Nice to see that Wisper continue to develop their product

 

[Vikki]

Hi, Eddieo.

That's what impressed me about Wisper, too. Their attention to detail and getting things sorted. That counts for a lot in my book

Vikki.

 

[eddieo]

Hi, Eddieo.

That's what impressed me about Wisper, too. Their attention to detail and getting things sorted. That counts for a lot in my book

Vikki.

I can't fault them, they have been very good to me...rebuilt my rear wheel gratis. You just won't get that kind of support if you buy a one of/job lot bike from some where like e*ay

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Chain guards etc

Hi Vicki and all

On the subject of oily trousers, we have fitted this skirt guard to the 2009 generation of 705's due to arrive in April, do you think they should be fitted to the 905 city too?



All the best David

 

[Mussels]

Hi Vicki and all

On the subject of oily trousers, we have fitted this skirt guard to the 2009 generation of 705's due to arrive in April, do you think they should be fitted to the 905 city too?


All the best David

Every time I look at that tinted plastic I picture it going brittle and snapping very quickly, it's only from past experience with similar looking products - I don't know if anyone else feels the same.
The skirt guard would put me off the 905 as it would look more like a girls bike, if it was optional then it wouldn't bother me. I think the chain guard puts me off a little as well but not as much as the Panasonic one.

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Very PC

Hi Mussels

I tend to agree with you.

However there is no need to worry about the tinted plastic we use. We only use polycarbonate, it not cheap but is the same as the plastic that is used in police shields!

All the best David

 

[nin26]

Hi Vicki and all

On the subject of oily trousers, we have fitted this skirt guard to the 2009 generation of 705's due to arrive in April, do you think they should be fitted to the 905 city too?

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All the best David

Is that a bigger battery than the old 705 that I see there? Does it have the range of the 905 city/sport?

I'll be desperately saving up if it does - step-through frame, off-road switch, skirt guard, chain guard and rack combined with the range of the 905 would tick all the boxes for me ....

..... pretty please?

 

[eddieo]

Is that a bigger battery than the old 705 that I see there? Does it have the range of the 905 city/sport?

I'll be desperately saving up if it does - step-through frame, off-road switch, skirt guard, chain guard and rack combined with the range of the 905 would tick all the boxes for me ....

..... pretty please?

Just thinking the same thing.

Does it still have a throttle? Basically how does it differ from present model? the battery looks bigger to me? any more gears?

I still need a bike for my wife...happy to wait till April if it is worth the wait

 

[nin26]

Just thinking the same thing.

Does it still have a throttle? Basically how does it differ from present model? the battery looks bigger to me? any more gears?

I still need a bike for my wife...happy to wait till April if it is worth the wait

Oooh yes, the throttle - very important! Pretty please David - is there finally a long-ranged Wisper for us girlies that have our seat high and don't want to wobble off from a start, flinging a leg inelegantly over the bike and landing in a heap? In a skirt? Please?

 

[Wisper Bikes]

The new 705's

Hi Guys

The current 705's have most of the same running gear that the 905's have but we originally chose to use the high quality yet lighter and less powerful Panasonic system.

On the new batch due to arrive in April we have upgraded from the Panasonic to the same battery choices as on the 905 range. You can even switch batteries between the bikes if you have a 905 and a 705!

All the running gear and electronics on the new 705's is exactly the same as the 905 as are the ranges.

They will be here in April.

We do however have a stock of the current 705's (which is still a great bike)and if you would like one now we will throw in £100,00 worth of Panniers and a handle bar bag!

Best regards David

 

[eddieo]

Hi Guys

The current 705's have most of the same running gear that the 905's have but we originally chose to use the high quality yet lighter and less powerful Panasonic system.

On the new batch due to arrive in April we have upgraded from the Panasonic to the same battery choices as on the 905 range. You can even switch batteries between the bikes if you have a 905 and a 705!

All the running gear and electronics on the new 705's is exactly the same as the 905 as are the ranges.

They will be here in April.

We do however have a stock of the current 705's (which is still a great bike)and if you would like one now we will throw in £100,00 worth of Panniers and a handle bar bag!

Best regards David

Thanks for that...So the same battery as on my 905SE? and still a throttle?

 

[nin26]

I so badly want one of the new ones! I sold my motorbike to buy my Windsor - I'm going to have to go some to find enough cash for the new 705. I doubt I'll get there by April ... but at least I know what I'm aiming for now!