A funny thing happened on the way to the bank

tillson

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I first became aware of electric bikes about 10 years ago when I saw an old boy on a bike whizzing around town at speeds that were not consistent with either the look of the bike or his age. I have no idea what sort it was, but it looked like a Raleigh RSW which I think later became a Raleigh 20? It had what looked like a home-made crank drive motor of some description.

This bike has intrigued me for some time, but I've never had an oportunity to talk to the owner............until today.

As I was just about to enter the bank, I saw this chap, on his bike, standing on one pedal leaning over the handlebars and letting the motor take him up the rather steep pedestrianised hill through the town centre. Opposite the bank, outside Subway, were a group of teenagers who shouted, "has that got an engine mate?" as the bike went past them. The rider turned and responded, "its electri....... CRASH!!!!! He had ridden straight into a bench. This pitched him and the bike over the bench. He seemed to remain inverted in suspended animation for a moment before gravity took over and pulled the whole lot to the ground. The panniers then opened revealing a stash of batteries and mince pies. Old boy had clearly been tempted to sample one or two of the pies before arriving home as one box was open, the contents of which started to roll down the hill.

A small crowed, me included started to make our way over to offer assistance, but he quickly jumped to his feet and stated, "You didn't know I could do tricks as well!"

I couldn't take my opportunity to talk to him about his bike because any attempt at converstation would have resulted in me folding up with laughter. The bike remains a mystery, but I suspect that it is a Raleigh 20 with a home made crank motor and a set of SLA batteries in the pannier. Whatever it is, its been going for at least 10 years that I know of.
 

TwoBikes

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Do you think the bike was a TGA electric bicycle? They looked very much like Raleigh 20s and a bit home made. As AtoB puts it:

"TGA was a slightly mysterious outfit based in Essex, that later moved its base up the road to Suffolk, where the company now concentrates on selling mobility trikes. Until very recently, it still built a few ancient electric bikes and trikes. With the accent on crude, but simple technology, (allegedly a lorry windscreen wiper motor driven by car batteries) the machines should be reliable, and are certainly easily fixed when things go wrong."

I had a photo of one, but I can't find it.
 

flecc

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TGA-Electrobike, they used to be capable of a fair turn of speed:



 

avronb

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Why cant we go back to basics like this bike,a friend of mine has just spent £700 on some type of ecu unit for his vauxhall car,i once paid that much for a brand new lada,ok it was like a tank to drive but also a doddle to fix and service,i had that car for about 5 yrs no problems at all,also owned a 2cv and a morris 100,bog standard A to B transport for the masses,thats what e.bikes should be like,not expensive toys for the well off.
 

flecc

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I think quantity is the problem avronb, mass production like that of the Lada at the Russian Togliatti factory and in it's prior life as the Fiat 124 in Turin makes for very low prices.

From memory that very basic TGA cost £1400 when last sold, 2008/9, far too much then for what it was, hence it's demise. The problem was the very small sales kept costs high.

It's a catch 22 situation, we need local volume manufacture for low prices, but we need the large sales from low prices to justify local volume manufacture. Only a very brave or foolhardy business person will spend a fortune to break that in a non-cycling country like Britain.
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tillson

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TwoBikes & flecc, that's the one, thanks for posting the info.

I have seen this bike and same rider going around the local area for at least the past ten years. It certainly seems a very capable bike able to achieve respectable speeds uphill on throttle only. Old heavy technology it may be, but it seems moves the payload around as well as any modern bike.

This is what I find attractive about the Tonaro, using older tried and tested technology to deliver a modestly priced, solid performing ebike.
 

flecc

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I think the TGA was a very sensible design, especially since it's origins date back to the 1980s.

Rated at 200 watts, torque was good, for speed it relied upon the gears, so with the right gear setup it could motor to 30 mph when conditions were favourable yet still be a good hill climber.

It also sold as a kit for quite a while, suitable for most diamond frame bikes, and in earlier years they also had a front wheel chain drive kit which another member remarked on recently.
 

banbury frank

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Hi

My nephew dropped one around asking me to see if it works.

It need new battery's

I have 2 new 12 volt 24 ah lead acid battery's to install It is A bit rusty will fit the battery's over Xmas let you know how it works



Frank
 

tillson

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Hi

My nephew dropped one around asking me to see if it works.

It need new battery's

I have 2 new 12 volt 24 ah lead acid battery's to install It is A bit rusty will fit the battery's over Xmas let you know how it works



Frank
Yes, please do so.