A message for d8veh the inventor.

mountainsport

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Hi d8veh,

As we all know that it is quite difficult to find a proper cycle indicator/turning signal light,anyway to get to the point is it possible for you to invent a basic cycle indicator with very bright orange/amber lights,that can be powered by a mini battery pack? It also would be nice to fit these lights on the seat stays. I'll be willing to purchase this item from you, whatever price when all is completed. I know that this is a small baby task for you to achieve.

Mountainsport
 
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The problem with self-invented stuff is that it's not easy to make it waterproof, and it's expensive to buy all the individual components.

Luckily, someone has already invented the professional solution:
4x 15 LED Mini Motorcycle/Bike Turn Signal Indicators Arrow Black Relay WA52 UK | eBay

You need ro make brackets to hold them to the seat stays and fork-leg tops. All you need is strips of aluminium to wrap around with two holes in the ends the size of the indicator threads. When you do up the nut it will clamp in place. The only other things you need is a three position switch from Maplin and a 12v power supply like this one:
New Design 6800mAh DC 12V Super Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery Pack | eBay

or a 3A DC-DC converter and a little box to keep it and the relay waterproof.
DC Linear Converter Buck Step Down 63V-4.5V to 60V-1.5V Module LM317 Low Ripple | eBay
Auto DC-DC LM2596 Step-Down Adjustable Converter Power Module Boost Buck Convert | eBay
 

Hugh

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Call me an old fart, but I'm not sure about the value of indicators on a bicycle. After all, we've got arms to do that job, and I reckon most road users still expect to see cyclists using hand signals rather than flashing indicators. Ithink it might come under the same heading as the fictitious talking dog - you don't hear what it's saying because you don't expect it to talk!

Also, bikes are very narrow, so unless you put some unsightly sticking-out prongs in each side of the bike to carry the indicators, as on a motorbike, it'd be pretty hard to tell which direction was being indicated.

I'd stick to arms, with maybe a reflective wrist band on each arm for extra visibility.
 

trex

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perhaps hi-viz jacket with flashing LED studs?
 
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Call me an old fart, but I'm not sure about the value of indicators on a bicycle. After all, we've got arms to do that job, and I reckon most road users still expect to see cyclists using hand signals rather than flashing indicators. Ithink it might come under the same heading as the fictitious talking dog - you don't hear what it's saying because you don't expect it to talk!

Also, bikes are very narrow, so unless you put some unsightly sticking-out prongs in each side of the bike to carry the indicators, as on a motorbike, it'd be pretty hard to tell which direction was being indicated.

I'd stick to arms, with maybe a reflective wrist band on each arm for extra visibility.
They used to say the same thing at the start of the 70s for motorcyclists.

It's big problem at night-time. I have a different point of view about drivers expecting arms. They're programmed to recognise orange flashing lights rather than arms sticking out. I personally believe that decent indicators would be better for safety, but those available are hopelessly inadequate.
 

flecc

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Maybe gloves with a bright flashing LED or arrowed LEDs with small battery mounted on the back of each glove, automatically triggered by a tilt switch when the arm is out horizontally?
 
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I had the same idea. In fact I bought some ultra-bright orange LEDs, timers and some tilt switches, but never got round to doing it because I don't commute any more.
 

Alan Quay

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I think it might come under the same heading as the fictitious talking dog - you don't hear what it's saying because you don't expect it to talk!
If my dog started talking, I'd sure as sh** start listening.

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Alan Quay

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Hugh's right then because your dog told me that he often asks for chocolate chip cookies, but you never seem to hear it.
What are you doing talking to my dog? I've told him not to answer the phone when I'm out.
 

mountainsport

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They used to say the same thing at the start of the 70s for motorcyclists.

It's big problem at night-time. I have a different point of view about drivers expecting arms. They're programmed to recognise orange flashing lights rather than arms sticking out. I personally believe that decent indicators would be better for safety, but those available are hopelessly inadequate.
I agree with you d8veh, also I did not mention anything about wanting sticking out unsightly motor cycling type indicator lights, I just mentioned about fitting lights to the seat stays.

Mountainsport
 

Marctwo

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...also I did not mention anything about wanting sticking out unsightly motor cycling type indicator lights, I just mentioned about fitting lights to the seat stays.
You didn't mention anything about NOT wanting bright amber lights that stick out as far as any other lights designed to go on your seat stays either...