brakes

[billyboya]

Hi all

Im fitting new disc brakes on my bike the brakes are called Bolids. But I removed a lot of things from brakes to clean them up. But I now have a problem with a part which i have uploaded images below. it has 3 ball bearings inside plus a plate, But I can't remember now if that plate is to be flush inside, and do that plate goes inside 1st then ball bearings after

the plate is at 1:52 of the web link and that plate which hold 3 ball bearings is at 1:58

here is the youtube link

hope someone can help me

 

[saneagle]

Hi all

Im fitting new disc brakes on my bike the brakes are called Bolids. But I removed a lot of things from brakes to clean them up. But I now have a problem with a part which i have uploaded images below. it has 3 ball bearings inside plus a plate, But I can't remember now if that plate is to be flush inside, and do that plate goes inside 1st then ball bearings after

the plate is at 1:52 of the web link and that plate which hold 3 ball bearings is at 1:58

here is the youtube link

hope someone can help me

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Do yourself a favour. Chuck all that rubbish and get yourself a hydraulic one. It takes about 5 minutes to fit (3 screws) and you'll never have to look at it again in the lifetime of your bike, while you get consistent, controllable and reliable braking, better than what you had before. They're only about £20.

Shimano BR-BL-MT200 Hydraulic Disc Brake Bicycle Front & Rear Set Bicycle Brakes | eBay UK

FOR SHIMANO MT200 Hydraulic Bicycle Disc Brake Oil Brakes with Lever Set Pre-Filled. New SHIMANO MT200 Oil Brakes Mountain Bike Hydraulic Disc Brakes. Model: MT200. 1 X Shimano Brakes (as per chosen option).

www.ebay.co.uk

Here with two types of brake switches if you need them:

XOD Ebike Bike Hydraulic Disc Brake Electricty power control shifter disc brake hydraulic bicycle brake SM /2PIN Plug - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

www.aliexpress.com

 

[Nealh]

Hi all

Im fitting new disc brakes on my bike the brakes are called Bolids. But I removed a lot of things from brakes to clean them up. But I now have a problem with a part which i have uploaded images below. it has 3 ball bearings inside plus a plate, But I can't remember now if that plate is to be flush inside, and do that plate goes inside 1st then ball bearings after

the plate is at 1:52 of the web link and that plate which hold 3 ball bearings is at 1:58

here is the youtube link

hope someone can help me

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Junk.

 

[billyboya]

Do yourself a favour. Chuck all that rubbish and get yourself a hydraulic one. It takes about 5 minutes to fit (3 screws) and you'll never have to look at it again in the lifetime of your bike, while you get consistent, controllable and reliable braking, better than what you had before. They're only about £20.

Shimano BR-BL-MT200 Hydraulic Disc Brake Bicycle Front & Rear Set Bicycle Brakes | eBay UK

FOR SHIMANO MT200 Hydraulic Bicycle Disc Brake Oil Brakes with Lever Set Pre-Filled. New SHIMANO MT200 Oil Brakes Mountain Bike Hydraulic Disc Brakes. Model: MT200. 1 X Shimano Brakes (as per chosen option).

www.ebay.co.uk

Here with two types of brake switches if you need them:

XOD Ebike Bike Hydraulic Disc Brake Electricty power control shifter disc brake hydraulic bicycle brake SM /2PIN Plug - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

www.aliexpress.com

Ok I will order these hydraulic ones. on ebay. but that aliexpress link says £17.07 just for a front brake or am i wrong what do I order the ebay ones or aliexpress

I wont have a clue how to fit hydraulic ones, also do they have pads what grip the wheel disc thing

 

[AndyBike]

If you find the performance of your new hydraulic brakes not up to par, which can be down to how fat large you are when coupled to a heavy bike, speed etc. All of which can overwhelm the brake and .... lets just say that doesn't usually end well.

You can improve your brakes performance by simply fitting larger rotors. If the bike came with 160/160, you can up it to 180/160 or 180f&r just by changing the brake's mount- which themselves only cost a couple of quid.

Im sure Saneagle will talk you through any assembly/fitting process. He once worked in a bike shop

As to your other dilemma, well its mechanical innit ? only going to be one of two ways it goes in, so trial and error is going to take you seconds to find out which side is which.

Build it A way works. Build it B way, doesnt work

 

[saneagle]

Ok I will order these hydraulic ones. on ebay. but that aliexpress link says £17.07 just for a front brake or am i wrong what do I order the ebay ones or aliexpress

I wont have a clue how to fit hydraulic ones, also do they have pads what grip the wheel disc thing

The Aliexpress one is £17 for just the front brake with the SM connector and long long lead, and £22 for one with the red 2-pin julet connector with a short lead. Make sure that you get the right one. Some bikes have the orange 3-pin Julet connector with the short lead.

The Ebay ones are about £23, but they don't have switches in them. If you only replace the front brake and you have a switch on the back one, that's no problem because you only need a switch on one brake.

To fit a hydraulic brake, its as simple as remove the old lever from the handlebars, which means pulling off the grip first. Slide on the new lever and tighten the one screw. The caliper will be hanging on the hose, just put it in position on the disc and caliper adapter and insert the two screws. Don't tighten the screws yet, leave them a bit loose. Pull the brake on hard, and while you hold it on, tighten the two screws. That's it. You won't have to look at it again for years. There's no need to adjust or service anything until the pads wear out, which will be in about 5,000 miles. The pads in hydraulic brakes don't wear fast like the ones in cable brakes.

If you want to be certain about all this show some pictures of your bike. It needs to show the whole bike so that we can see the height of the handlebars and the brake cable routing, and another to show what's on the handlebars. Obviously, if you have very high handlebars, you'll probably need a brake with an extra long hose.

 

[billyboya]

The Aliexpress one is £17 for just the front brake with the SM connector and long long lead, and £22 for one with the red 2-pin julet connector with a short lead. Make sure that you get the right one. Some bikes have the orange 3-pin Julet connector with the short lead.

The Ebay ones are about £23, but they don't have switches in them. If you only replace the front brake and you have a switch on the back one, that's no problem because you only need a switch on one brake.

To fit a hydraulic brake, its as simple as remove the old lever from the handlebars, which means pulling off the grip first. Slide on the new lever and tighten the one screw. The caliper will be hanging on the hose, just put it in position on the disc and caliper adapter and insert the two screws. Don't tighten the screws yet, leave them a bit loose. Pull the brake on hard, and while you hold it on, tighten the two screws. That's it. You won't have to look at it again for years. There's no need to adjust or service anything until the pads wear out, which will be in about 5,000 miles. The pads in hydraulic brakes don't wear fast like the ones in cable brakes.

If you want to be certain about all this show some pictures of your bike. It needs to show the whole bike so that we can see the height of the handlebars and the brake cable routing, and another to show what's on the handlebars. Obviously, if you have very high handlebars, you'll probably need a brake with an extra long hose.

I'm still a bit confused with all this, as don't you need front and back hydraulics brakes then or just front, as you say on ebay its £23 but thats just for a front set right side handle bar.

also on Aliexpress it says this just for a front brake and rear is £19.82 as I have a short 2 pin lead from brake levers to connections at front of bike





the bike is upside down atm







this is my exact bike, but mine has a G51 display not as in web page


https://www.amazon.co.uk/SOODOO-Rechargeable-Lithium-Ion-Transmission-Women-White/dp/B0C6R3JWQG


I have now managed to sort out my disc brakes on bike, spent all dam day sorting the brakes, I have to lift bike up 16 steps to mine so i'm worn out now lol.

so do these Hydraulic brakes have disc brakes then so you still have to change the disc brakes like i am doing now except instead of a wire pulling on the brakes its a piston with oil etc through a cable no wire then. I wont fit hydraulic brakes just yet until these need changing then i will order a set then come back here. but I don't understand this at all about hydraulic brakes.

so will need baby steps lol

 

[Raboa]

This article explains it.

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[thelarkbox]

Roughly 70-80% of your braking is done by the front brake, so the rear brake is less crucial to upgrade. And the upgrade to the front will make a significantly greater contribution to improving your braking performance.

But if your current brakes are sufficient to lock your back wheel when attempting an emergency stop they dont need upgrading as any better braking would just lock the wheel sooner..

 

[saneagle]

But if your current brakes are sufficient to lock your back wheel when attempting an emergency stop they dont need upgrading as any better braking would just lock the wheel sooner..

Be careful, the main advantage of hydraulic brakes is the control and modulation, which means that you can apply the amount of braking you want - enough to get the wheel to fully brake without slipping. The maximum braking force comes just before the wheel starts to skid. This is the problem with rim brakes. They tend to grab the wheel and lock the back one or send you over the handlebars if it's the front one. You should never let the back wheel skid, which you can achieve with good brakes. If your back wheel ever skids, it's because either you have a bad braking technique or you have crappy brakes.

 

[billyboya]

Be careful, the main advantage of hydraulic brakes is the control and modulation, which means that you can apply the amount of braking you want - enough to get the wheel to fully brake without slipping. The maximum braking force comes just before the wheel starts to skid. This is the problem with rim brakes. They tend to grab the wheel and lock the back one or send you over the handlebars if it's the front one. You should never let the back wheel skid, which you can achieve with good brakes. If your back wheel ever skids, it's because either you have a bad braking technique or you have crappy brakes.

I'm not ordering any just yet until these what I have fitted new disc pads to, need replacing then consider Hydraulic ones, But don't you need both a front and back Hydraulic brake then as some say just the front. surely you need both front and back, as seems odd to have H ones on front and old type on back. also will my bike take hydraulic brakes I did paste a link to my bike above but here it is again below

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SOODOO-Rechargeable-Lithium-Ion-Transmission-Women-White/dp/B0C6R3JWQG

so these Hydraulic brakes still use disc pads then same as I have now. it could be a while before I get H ones so will come back here as when I need help to sort out the H brakes

thanks guys for all your help its most appreciated, its hard for me as I have to keep lifting my bike up 16 steps to my home, and i'm not that young. so hard to do these jobs now.

 

[Nealh]

Generally if the bike allows then one would change both so that they use the same pads and also the levers will be the same. As long as one has two working brake then the bike is legal.

 

[saneagle]

I'm not ordering any just yet until these what I have fitted new disc pads to, need replacing then consider Hydraulic ones, But don't you need both a front and back Hydraulic brake then as some say just the front. surely you need both front and back, as seems odd to have H ones on front and old type on back. also will my bike take hydraulic brakes I did paste a link to my bike above but here it is again below

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SOODOO-Rechargeable-Lithium-Ion-Transmission-Women-White/dp/B0C6R3JWQG

so these Hydraulic brakes still use disc pads then same as I have now. it could be a while before I get H ones so will come back here as when I need help to sort out the H brakes

thanks guys for all your help its most appreciated, its hard for me as I have to keep lifting my bike up 16 steps to my home, and i'm not that young. so hard to do these jobs now.

You can have whatever arrangement you want. Whichever brake is hydraulic will be better than a cable one. Obviously, if you only replace one brake, the improvement is half as much, but a 50% improvement is better than 0%. You can replace any cable disc brake with a hydraulic one. As I said, it's three screws.

 

[billyboya]

You can have whatever arrangement you want. Whichever brake is hydraulic will be better than a cable one. Obviously, if you only replace one brake, the improvement is half as much, but a 50% improvement is better than 0%. You can replace any cable disc brake with a hydraulic one. As I said, it's three screws.

so they will defo fit my bike, which i have posted a link to it above. yes I would rather have both front and back Hydraulic brakes. so can you give me a link to buy a full front and back set. so they still require disc pads like i have now then. I can place an order for them now then when I need to change the brake pads again I can fit hydraulic ones. will they still fit the frame the calipers I mean which holds the disc pads as its 2 screws what holds it to frame



Would these be right what I need, also the brake lights cable is red with 2 pins the front right lead connects to front female red connecter

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/388719871382?

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Those are Avid BB7 calipers, which I think are top of the range mechanical calipers.

I think Shimano MT200s would fit -

Shimano BR BL MT200 Bicycle Brake MTB Brake Hydraulic Disc Brake 800/850/1450/1400mm Mountain Clamp Brakes upgraded MT315 - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

www.aliexpress.com

There is the option of Left Rear, Right Front for £33.69 free delivery - just check tubing length - sometimes you need to message the seller

That is without brake cut outs that you can buy separately

I think it is these bolts you need to undo

 

[esuark]

I think the OP requires ones with the brake switches which saneagle identified in #2 above..........

 

[Peter.Bridge]

there's also these, if needed, with the yellow connector

Brake Sensor only for Shimano MT200 Brake

1. Warm Tips* Shipping from China takes 10-20 working days.* For the front and rear brakes. * Very simple to install, very easy to use.* Will allow you to cut off the electric system on your electric vehicle.2. Copyright StatementAll the contents including words, pictures, and videos are...

www.yosepower.co.uk

 

[billyboya]

Those are Avid BB7 calipers, which I think are top of the range mechanical calipers.

I think Shimano MT200s would fit -

Shimano BR BL MT200 Bicycle Brake MTB Brake Hydraulic Disc Brake 800/850/1450/1400mm Mountain Clamp Brakes upgraded MT315 - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

www.aliexpress.com

There is the option of Left Rear, Right Front for £33.69 free delivery - just check tubing length - sometimes you need to message the seller

That is without brake cut outs that you can buy separately

I think it is these bolts you need to undo

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its the 2 bolts what I marked up in post #14 above what holds caliper to bike frame

 

[billyboya]

I'm totally lost here is this what I need to order for front and back brakes. the front and back brake lights cable have a red 2 pin connecter I wont order anything until I find what's right and are they ok for my bike which I also posted a link above too

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/388719871382?

 

[Waspy]

its the 2 bolts what I marked up in post #14 above what holds caliper to bike frame

The two bolts in post #14 hold the adaptor to the frame.

The two bolts in post #15 hold the caliper to the adaptor.