It burns the Books!
Seriously folks my ancestors had hundreds of years of dealing with this border nonsense.
Smuggling
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Seriously folks my ancestors had hundreds of years of dealing with this border nonsense.
Smuggling
Unfortunately so can I
Things have got so bad I suggest we send Zlatan and Fingers to negotiate on our behalf
Now that is surely a bigger threat than No Deal ever was.
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If there was a caption contest on this image
Mine would be
Spot the Mugs
Mine would be
Spot the Mugs
I love the spin the Daily Mail uses
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EU dismisses Boris Johnson's Brexit plans before they have even got off the ground as officials leak withering assessment of proposals to replace the Irish backstop
In what will be seen in Westminster as a hostile act, EU officials leaked a withering assessment of new British proposals to replace the controversial Irish backstop (top, Boris Johnson outside Downing Street yesterday). UK sources last night dismissed the assessment. But the decision to leak the document, which was circulated to ambassadors from the other 27 EU countries, will be seen as an attempt by European Commission hardliners to undermine talks which have been gathering momentum (bottom-left Angela Merkel and bottom-right Emmanuel Macron).
A couple of interesting points
Why does the term "Hostile act" apply to nonsensical proposals?
Why is this seen as a attempt to undermine talks by EU hardliners, when Boris made sure the proposals would be unacceptable?
After all he never wanted a deal did he?
And the Government say further proposals will be published next month....why the delay?
It's not as if there's any hurry is it?
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EU dismisses Boris Johnson's Brexit plans before they have even got off the ground as officials leak withering assessment of proposals to replace the Irish backstop
In what will be seen in Westminster as a hostile act, EU officials leaked a withering assessment of new British proposals to replace the controversial Irish backstop (top, Boris Johnson outside Downing Street yesterday). UK sources last night dismissed the assessment. But the decision to leak the document, which was circulated to ambassadors from the other 27 EU countries, will be seen as an attempt by European Commission hardliners to undermine talks which have been gathering momentum (bottom-left Angela Merkel and bottom-right Emmanuel Macron).
A couple of interesting points
Why does the term "Hostile act" apply to nonsensical proposals?
Why is this seen as a attempt to undermine talks by EU hardliners, when Boris made sure the proposals would be unacceptable?
After all he never wanted a deal did he?
And the Government say further proposals will be published next month....why the delay?
It's not as if there's any hurry is it?
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I doubt I am alone in feeling that a no-deal brexit could be considered a hostile act against the UK. There simply is NO majority for no-deal. (Has anyone identified even a single consitituency which appears to have a majority in favour of no-deal?) If the downside were properly understood, I suspect that even some who now seem to support no-deal would change their minds.
Of course, there might be some advantages, somewhere of no-deal. I am struggling to find any - even in a world awash with propaganda, I see precious little identifying positive aspects beyond slogans with little or no substance.
One way or another, anything that permits, even encourages, significantly different regimes in physical proximity will tend to increase smuggling.
Even now, there are differences betweenc EU countries which result in trades which are questioned by some. One example, B12 ampoules for injection are over-the-counter in Germany but prescription-only in the UK. There is, therefore, a considerable volume of personal importation by those who need it. Legal - for personal use - yes. But exploiting a difference. Some say that Germany should not be allowed to sell prescription-only medicines to the UK without prescription. They are not alllowed to sell products which are prescription-only in Germany to the UK.
(Crazier still, these B12 ampoules are only prescription-only if you need them. If used as a general feel-better injection without any health claims, often available from beauty salons, they are not prescription-only. Exactly the same product - same ampoules.)
Instead of shared costs for many things, we will have to fund our own. One example, medicines. European Medicines Agency is able to authorise medicines for the EU. Now we will have to authorise each medicine ourselves with whatever costs are involved. Just take the ludicrous idea that small countries could afford to do that - Malta? Or that we could do that for low-volume orphan drugs.
The costs of the MHRA resuming total responsibility will be significant.
The costs of implementing enhanced border management even just for commercial traffic will be significant.
Keep going through all the various areas which currently spread costs over 28 countries.
All that on top of the absolutely gigantic costs of brexit - so far.
Divorces are never cheap (It cost me a mortgage free house) but looking back, it was worth every penny.
Unless you have offshore banking tax swindles or run a Hedge fund, then it must appear tempting, especially as those in that situation can always flee the country when the ordure hits the proverbial fan.
None of us yet know the final bill (inasmuch as it could ever be calculated).
Lives as well as money.
The attached article from the RTE website gives a review of last weeks "negotiations" It is long .and sobering.....
www.rte.ie
Brexit: The perils of progress on the backstop
Europe Editor Tony Connelly looks back on a week when optimism gave way to pessimism as the Brexit deadline of 31 October fast approaches.
With our governments it will be controlling how the money is either not spent or wasted.
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When Lady Hale said something like "as soon as humanly possible", do you think that included working over the weekend? That is, could the result of the case be sooner than might otherwise have been expected?
There are truckloads of money to be made for some (opening up uk market, less consumer protection, workers rights, privatisation of nhs), the kind of money that makes for serious disinformation by very big capital, we are in a sense an enormous low hanging fruit.
Interesting point.
Interesting points are so judged by the reader not the author and they are not couched as questions.
There was no majority to stay.
There was no majority for Mays deal.
There was only a majority to leave.
They already have their answer, the only reason for delay is to write their judgment in full, always a lengthy exercise.
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