Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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I wonder whether "Led by Donkeys" could be encouraged to Project "Brexit Bell ends" over Big ben or Boris's projected clock? :cool:
Wonder if they have made it onto the counter terrorism list?

A counter-terrorism police document distributed to medical staff and teachers as part of anti-extremism briefings included Greenpeace, Peta and other non-violent groups as well as neo-Nazis, the Guardian has learned.

The guide, produced by Counter Terrorism Policing, is used across England as part of training for Prevent, the anti-radicalisation scheme designed to catch those at risk of committing terrorist violence.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/17/greenpeace-included-with-neo-nazis-on-uk-counter-terror-list
 
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Tommy Robinson wins the World Free Press award, to be presented today in the Danish parliament. Note the nice cycling highway at the end of the video.
 

oldgroaner

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Javid has thrown the Leave campaign promise "Food will be cheaper outside the EU" hasn't he?

Not only that he appears to have rubbished the deal Boris has supposedly already agreed over laws and regulations with the EU.
What's the betting before long Boris rejects everything Javid has said today?
 

oyster

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Javid has thrown the Leave campaign promise "Food will be cheaper outside the EU" hasn't he?

Not only that he appears to have rubbished the deal Boris has supposedly already agreed over laws and regulations with the EU.
What's the betting before long Boris rejects everything Javid has said today?
For a start, non-alignment might come about over time, but that rant looks as if we will purposely diverge immediately. Who will make the London prototype of the kilogram so we don't have to agree to using the one in Paris? (Yes, I know that we are moving away from the physicial prototype.)

And then:

In an interview with the Financial Times, he said: “There will not be alignment, we will not be a rule taker, we will not be in the single market and we will not be in the customs union – and we will do this by the end of the year.

For all values of "we" except "we who live in northern Ireland". Just what does it say about a government that doesn't even understand the concept of the word "we"?
 

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What's the betting before long Boris rejects everything Javid has said today?
He will have to if he wants what he calls a trade deal. There is of course no such thing in the singular, trade deals come in multiples, even that of the EU with little Switzerland consisted of 120 trade deals reached over seven years of negotiations.

Each one required acceptance of the EU standards and basic tenets, and when Switzerland tried to duck out of one later they were firmly told, if you do, all the trade deals are null and void.

That's the reality and a twerp like Sajid David really needs to do his homework before opening his mouth.
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oldgroaner

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He will have to if he wants what he calls a trade deal. There is of course no such thing in the singular, trade deals come in multiples, even that of the EU with little Switzerland consisted of 120 trade deals reached over seven years of negotiations.

Each one required acceptance of the EU standards and basic tenets, and when Switzerland tried to duck out of one later they were firmly told, if you do, all the trade deals are null and void.

That's the reality and a twerp like Sajid David really needs to do his homework before opening his mouth.
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If he hadn't been a twerp Boris would never have given him that job!
Boris is going to struggle with the USA as well if "We are not going to be a rule taker"
Trump will tell him to shove that notion where the sun doesn't shine.

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Bloody good job it was the “easiest deal in history” otherwise we would be in a right mucking fuddle. :D
 
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oldgroaner

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They're frothing at the mouth in the Express
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Cummings launches blistering attack on meddling civil service hellbent on thwarting Brexit
DOMINIC CUMMINGS launched a blistering attack on senior civil servants for allegedly plotting to keep the UK closely tied to Brussels after Brexit. At a meeting for ministerial advisers in Downing Street, Boris Johnson’s strategy chief accused some mandarins of failing to grasp the Government’s vision of a clean break from the EU.


And his failure to grasp that the majority of the public don't want a break from the EU either.
Already 52/48 against leaving and when things become expensive someone is going to look for a place to lay the blame.
Sooner or later Boris is going to have to boot out this "Scrapyard Dog" on a advisor for Health and Safety reasons.
 
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DOMINIC CUMMINGS launched a blistering attack on senior civil servants for allegedly plotting to keep the UK closely tied to Brussels after Brexit. At a meeting for ministerial advisers in Downing Street, Boris Johnson’s strategy chief accused some mandarins of failing to grasp the Government’s vision of a clean break from the EU.
The notion that Cummings is clever seems somewhat flawed.

There can be no such thing as a clean break from the EU at the same time as reaching any sort of a trade deal. The two are incompatible so the government's vision is clearly flawed.

And then of course there's the little matter of the Great Repeal Bill, which wrote all the previously accepted EU law of 44 years into UK law. That alone embedded the EU permanently into the running of the UK, which could hardly be further from a clean break.
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Labour leadership hustings in Liverpool: they all say that Labour must win at the next election but no candidate dared to say what to do about Corbyn's legacy.
 

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Labour leadership hustings in Liverpool: they all say that Labour must win at the next election but no candidate dared to say what to do about Corbyn's legacy.
I genuinely think that this latest crop of hopefuls, particularly Long Bailey, have no intention or desire to win an election. They like the purity of far-left socialist theory. Power is a secondary concern for them.
 
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I genuinely think that this latest crop of hopefuls, particularly Long Bailey, have no intention or desire to win an election. They like the purity of far-left socialist theory. Power is a secondary concern for them.
left, left, left...
 

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