Brexit, for once some facts.

[Jesus H Christ]

COVID-19 is 100% FAKE

Spot on mate. You get out there and lick as many shop door handles, pedestrian crossing buttons and petrol pump handles as you can find. You’ll be sound, nowt to worry about. Don’t bother with the vaccine, it’s got a micro chip in it so the government can track your movements.

 

[POLLY]

Wales seems to be doing quite well.

Wales has effectively stopped recording excess deaths, says ONS

Wales had effectively stopped recording excess deaths by early February, according to the latest figures from the Office for National Statistics. But in the week ending Friday 12 February deaths in all regions of England were still well above the five-year average for this time of year, and overall deaths in England and Wales were running at 28.8%.
Of the 15,354 deaths in England and Wales in the week ending 12 February, 37.1% involved Covid (in that it was mentioned on the death certificate).
This chart illustrates the trend with excess deaths.

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/feb/23/uk-covid-live-public-backs-johnsons-plan-for-lockdown-easing-in-england-polls-suggest

100% Bullcrap

 

[oldgroaner]

Did you know that there is an egg shortage? The reason is because it’s all over yours and the Leprechaun’s face.

The U.K. vaccination process is a marvellous success and you don’t like it. You are trying to politicise it, and it’s not a political triumph.

what's a joke it's being used to score a political Triumph by hoodwinking the gullible, you being a prime example
How is it but this wonderful vaccination programme hasn't stopped sage now predicting a further 30000 dead once lockdown is stopped? the only real protection was lockdown down ,applying that logic.
It would seem sage believe that vaccination isn't a magic bullet

 

[oldgroaner]

But if we had given the second dose, today there would be 8500000 more people in the vulnerable category without any protection at all. Because of the delayed second dose, those 8500000 people are now over 70% less likely to die and in a few weeks, will be fully vaccinated.

I’m very happy to have my second injection delayed and be exposed to a slightly raised risk so that others can receive some level of protection more quickly. Perhaps that makes me more of a socialist than the fakes who haunt this thread.

the only faker on this thread is you , who voted in the man responsible for so much death and misery, that doesn't make you a socialist the word anarchist fits more closely.
And here you are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear with this latest nonsense of pretending to be willing to be a martyr for the greater good of all . If that was your intention you should never have voted for Boris in the first place

 

[flecc]

COVID-19 is 100% FAKE

But is POLLY 100% FAKE?

In truth another member lurking under another identity?
.

 

[Danidl]

My wife had her second jab (Pfizer) yesterday morning. She started feeling a bit dizzy and light headed last night, and does not feel quite right this morning. She did not have this light headedness with the first jab, just a sore arm.

One of her team members had the second jab last week and has been feeling really unwell ever since, again this person had no problems with the first jab just a sore arm.

A few people have told me that you are more likely to have side effects with the second jab than the first, does anyone know if this is correct?

I understand that that is very normal. Remember that the vaccine has to invoke a response to be effective, and the effect is much more pronounced after the second jab, as the system is already sensitised . Hence the entire 2 jab strategy.

 

[Danidl]

But if we had given the second dose, today there would be 8500000 more people in the vulnerable category without any protection at all. Because of the delayed second dose, those 8500000 people are now over 70% less likely to die and in a few weeks, will be fully vaccinated.

I’m very happy to have my second injection delayed and be exposed to a slightly raised risk so that others can receive some level of protection more quickly. Perhaps that makes me more of a socialist than the fakes who haunt this thread.

That is indeed the calculation. For my part, I am happier ,to forgo the jab at this time, remain in my semi cocoon ,in the expectation that even more vulnerable people, including my son , are fully protected sooner. Our calculation is that this reduces the pool of infection quicker in the long run

 

[Jesus H Christ]

But is POLLY 100% FAKE?

In truth another member lurking under another identity?
.

Giz a clue.

 

[Jesus H Christ]

the only faker on this thread is you , who voted in the man responsible for so much death and misery, that doesn't make you a socialist the word anarchist fits more closely.
And here you are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear with this latest nonsense of pretending to be willing to be a martyr for the greater good of all . If that was your intention you should never have voted for Boris in the first place

Stop being nasty.

 

[flecc]

Giz a clue.

Likely Clues:

Polly is a he.

Polly likes conspiracy theories.

Polly has a long standing dislike of me and/or my posts.

Quite a few candidates for that last clue though !
.

 

[flecc]

COVID-19 is 100% FAKE

How about climate change, where do you stand on that?

Or Global warming for that matter?

Moon landings?
.

 

[POLLY]

How about climate change, where do you stand on that?

Or Global warming for that matter?

Moon landings?
.

All 100% FAKE

 

[Jesus H Christ]

Likely Clues:

Polly is a he.

Polly likes conspiracy theories.

Polly has a long standing dislike of me and/or my posts.

Quite few candidates for that last clue though !
.

I think I’ve got it from those clues thank you.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Likely Clues:

Polly is a he.

Polly likes conspiracy theories.

Polly has a long standing dislike of me and/or my posts.

Quite few candidates for that last clue though !
.

Hmm. A female impersonator. That seems very politically correct for the male conspiracy theorist that comes to mind.

 

[Nev]

Giz a clue.

Begins with v ends with r and has an f in the middle, my second guess would be sound wave, we will probably never know for sure though.

 

[oldgroaner]

It's is political because ultimately Boris (World King) / cabinet / Boris, Hancock & Zahawi*, chose to delay second dose.

Why did the govt decide to delay the second dose

The government initially planned to give people their second dose within three weeks of their first dose, following the evidence collected in trials. In early January, following advice from the JCVI and the chief medical officers of the four nations, it decided to delay the second dose to within three months, in order to give more people a first dose more quickly.

The JCVI cited studies, including of the Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca vaccines, which suggested the first dose alone offers good protection in the short-term, while the second dose offers longer durability. But epidemiologists are divided, with some, including the World Health Organization, arguing this evidence is too patchy and advocating for additional research and a more cautious approach. Companies, including Pfizer, have also expressed doubts over diverging from the timeline they tested.

One risk is that the single dose may prove to be less effective, with immunity lapsing quickly. The government’s judgement is that – given the current scale of transmission and hospitalisation in the UK, the potential benefit of the “first dose first” strategy, and its ability to monitor efficacy – this is a risk worth taking.

Another is that half-vaccinating people could encourage more vaccine-resistant strains of the virus. While it appears current vaccines will be effective against the variant that emerged in Kent, their effectiveness against the South African variant is unclear. A key question this year will be whether vaccines can stay ahead of further mutations.

Politicians’ appetite for risk will be influenced by factors including the severity of the crisis they are facing. The US, also suffering from a spike in cases and hospitalisations, is considering a “first dose first” strategy like the UK’s, as are Germany and Ireland. Other countries facing a less perilous situation – including Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan and Japan – have opted to wait for more data as populations around the world begin to react to vaccination.

Coronavirus vaccine rollout | Institute for Government

The vaccine rollout is the responsibility of the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC).

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk

*In December, the prime minister appointed Nadhim Zahawi as minister for Covid-19 vaccinations, based in the health department. The prime minister and Matt Hancock, the health secretary, will also be held accountable for oversight of the programme.

I love Satire
"The prime minister and Matt Hancock, the health secretary, will also be held accountable for oversight of the programme. "

By whom? (I'm an Atheist by the way)

 

[oldgroaner]

Begins with v ends with r and has an f in the middle, my second guess would be sound wave, we will probably never know for sure though.

I doubt it's being Soundwave, Polly's posts lack that exquisitely excruciating turn of phrase that almost amounts to written Graffitti
Soundwave majors in

 

[oldgroaner]

But is POLLY 100% FAKE?

In truth another member lurking under another identity?
.

I think a more appropriate word is alias

 

[oldgroaner]

Stop being nasty.

The truth isn't nasty, just unwelcome...

 

[Danidl]

I understand that that is very normal. Remember that the vaccine has to invoke a response to be effective, and the effect is much more pronounced after the second jab, as the system is already sensitised . Hence the entire 2 jab strategy.

.. This is the good news...
The rate of Covid-19 infections dropped 95.8 per cent among people who received both shots of Pfizer’s vaccine, Israel’s health ministry said on Saturday.

The vaccine was also 98 per cent effective in preventing infections that caused fever or breathing problems and 98.9 per cent effective in preventing hospitalisations and death, the ministry said.

The findings were based on national data collected on February 13th from Israelis who had received their second shot at least two weeks previously. According to the health ministry’s website, about 1.7 million people had been administered a second shot by January 30th, making them eligible to be included.

Previous reports from individual healthcare providers also showed positive results, spurring Israel to remove restrictions on the economy after weeks of lockdown. On Sunday, schools and many stores will be allowed to reopen.

The health ministry has also rolled out a “green pass” app, linked to personal medical files, which people who have been fully inoculated or deemed immune after recovering from Covid-19 can show to stay at hotels or attend cultural or sporting events.