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Zlatan

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dont care and not even the job centre can demand proof of a jab and no one in there wears a face mask either or on the bus ;)
Be careful SW don't get your job and jab centre mixed up.. You might get more than you bargained for.. Should be part of benefits... No jab...get a job.
 

guerney

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dont care and not even the job centre can demand proof of a jab and no one in there wears a face mask either or on the bus ;)
I don't blame you Soundwave... you might get a constant nag (Pressurewave) ball and chain (Standingwave) - Tinder is deliveroo for chlamydia :oops:
 
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soundwave

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dont need a failed cancer treatment that only lasts 10 weeks and needs a top up what you going to do take it forever pmsl.
 

soundwave

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Someone is short of friends, now why could that be?
i have plenty of them not like you spending 247 posting on here only flecc has more posts than you, do you even own a ebike lol.
 
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Jesus H Christ

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dont need a failed cancer treatment that only lasts 10 weeks and needs a top up what you going to do take it forever pmsl.
My niece is a doctor at Cardiff Royal Infirmary. She told me earlier today that about 90% of the Covid patients are unvaccinated. They have COVID deaths every day and most of them ask if it’s too late to be vaccinated at some point prior to their death.

Whilst this is hilarious, we must remember that some of these people are quite young and have families. That’s actually quite sad because the children will grow up minus one parent and will have to live with the knowledge that their mum / dad was an ocean going twat.
 

soundwave

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My niece is a doctor at Cardiff Royal Infirmary. She told me earlier today that about 90% of the Covid patients are unvaccinated. They have COVID deaths every day and most of them ask if it’s too late to be vaccinated at some point prior to their death.

Whilst this is hilarious, we must remember that some of these people are quite young and have families. That’s actually quite sad because the children will grow up minus one parent and will have to live with the knowledge that their mum / dad was an ocean going twat.
the avg age of death is over 80 pmsl and the vax does not stop it killing you it is a nhs stress relief jab because the government has spent the last ten years destroying it :p .

and you need a new one every 10 weeks or you will be unvaxxed on the system oh no lol
 

Jesus H Christ

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the avg age of death is over 80 pmsl and the vax does not stop it killing you it is a nhs stress relief jab because the government has spent the last ten years destroying it :p .

and you need a new one every 10 weeks or you will be unvaxxed on the system oh no lol
….. and you obtained this information form Derek Dickhead’s Facebook page.

The real world observations seem to suggest that 9 out of 10 Covid hospital patients are not vaccinated.

It makes no difference to me whether you choose to get vaccinated or listen to Derek Dickhead. The forum would actually be marginally better without your contribution, so if pushed, I’d recommended that you don’t get a vaccination. Your vaccination could be used to protect a useful person.
 
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soundwave

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YearNumber
of deaths
Population
(Thousands)
Crude mortality
rate (per
100,000
population)
Age-standardised
mortality rate
(per 100,000
population)
2020608,00259,8291,016.201,043.50
2019530,84159,440893.1925
2018541,58959,116916.1965.4
2017533,25358,745907.7965.3
2016525,04858,381899.3966.9
2015529,65557,885915993.2
2014501,42457,409873.4953
2013506,79056,948889.9985.9
2012499,33156,568882.7987.4
2011484,36756,171862.3978.6
2010493,24255,692885.71,017.10
2009491,34855,235889.61,033.80
2008509,09054,842928.31,091.90
2007504,05254,387926.81,091.80
2006502,59953,951931.61,104.30
2005512,99353,575957.51,143.80
2004514,25053,152967.51,163.00
2003539,15152,8631,019.901,232.10
2002535,35652,6021,017.701,231.30
2001532,49852,3601,017.001,236.20
2000537,87752,1401,031.601,266.40
1999553,53251,9331,065.801,320.20
1998553,43551,7201,070.101,327.20
1997558,05251,5601,082.301,350.80
1996563,00751,4101,095.101,372.50
1995565,90251,2721,103.701,392.00
1994551,78051,1161,079.501,374.90
1993578,51250,9861,134.701,453.40
1992558,31350,8761,097.401,415.00
1991570,04450,7481,123.301,464.30
1990564,84650,5611,117.201,462.60

Median age in yearsMedian age in yearsMean age in yearsMean age in years
Involving COVID-19Due to COVID-19Involving COVID-19Due to COVID-19
Persons838380.380.4
Male818178.678.7
Female858582.382.5

Covid-19 news: Booster omicron protection wanes within 10 weeks

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237475-covid-19-news-booster-omicron-protection-wanes-within-10-weeks/#ixzz7GHxI34a3

now who looks like a dick head you are just a bully that resorts to insults and im not going anywhere and i have helped plenty of people on this forum over the years and dont see jack from you ,do you even have a ebike?


seems you and old goner are just old trolls with nothing else better to do cant provide real stats to back up what you say and so what if no one in hospital is vaccinated it is not killing them on mass is it as the mortality data shows for 2021.

Status of COVID-19
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.



In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.


 
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Zlatan

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it is a nhs stress relief jab
If you accept jab reduces stress on our 30 year underfunded NHS, why isn't that enough to justify having it...
I, m awaiting a heart op... Been told at least 9 months now, without hospitals blocked up with covid patients it would be 7 weeks or so.(I don't agree with all the BS about consultants lying. They have no reason to)
I do accept at your age(I, d guess) chance of dying of covid is pretty low but that is not all that's going on SW. Just pop to your own local hospital and speak with nurses in or around ICU...???
And BTW SW your table shows a 7.5% increase in deaths for 2020...Thats a lot of excess deaths. Many of them missed cancers, late heart ops etc etc... Covid deaths aren't the only deaths SW.
And, I agree, re our NHS run down... But we are where we are. Go get jabbed matey.
 
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oyster

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Looks like we are set up for a huge experiment. NI, S and W restricting and E not. (E not restricting before New Year effectively means not until at least the 5th due to the need to recall HoC which I doubt can even be started before the 3rd. And we have been told it will take 48 hours minimum.) Therefore, at least ten days regardless what happens between now and then.

Happy New Year to all.
 
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soundwave

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If you accept jab reduces stress on our 30 year underfunded NHS, why isn't that enough to justify having it...
I, m awaiting a heart op... Been told at least 9 months now, without hospitals blocked up with covid patients it would be 7 weeks or so.
I do accept at your age(I, d guess) chance of dying of covid is pretty low but that is not all that's going on SW. Just pop to your own local hospital and speak with nurses in or around ICU...???
look at the ons data i just posted this is now all about cases that i have said many times and this will not end unless the testing centers go we cant cure covid and just have to get on with it afs if i have not even got it in 2 years then i must have antibody's to protect me that are way better than any vaccine that runs out in ten weeks.

my mum also has chronic copd and goes out shopping every single day no mask and has never got it either.
 
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Jesus H Christ

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YearNumber
of deaths
Population
(Thousands)
Crude mortality
rate (per
100,000
population)
Age-standardised
mortality rate
(per 100,000
population)
2020608,00259,8291,016.201,043.50
2019530,84159,440893.1925
2018541,58959,116916.1965.4
2017533,25358,745907.7965.3
2016525,04858,381899.3966.9
2015529,65557,885915993.2
2014501,42457,409873.4953
2013506,79056,948889.9985.9
2012499,33156,568882.7987.4
2011484,36756,171862.3978.6
2010493,24255,692885.71,017.10
2009491,34855,235889.61,033.80
2008509,09054,842928.31,091.90
2007504,05254,387926.81,091.80
2006502,59953,951931.61,104.30
2005512,99353,575957.51,143.80
2004514,25053,152967.51,163.00
2003539,15152,8631,019.901,232.10
2002535,35652,6021,017.701,231.30
2001532,49852,3601,017.001,236.20
2000537,87752,1401,031.601,266.40
1999553,53251,9331,065.801,320.20
1998553,43551,7201,070.101,327.20
1997558,05251,5601,082.301,350.80
1996563,00751,4101,095.101,372.50
1995565,90251,2721,103.701,392.00
1994551,78051,1161,079.501,374.90
1993578,51250,9861,134.701,453.40
1992558,31350,8761,097.401,415.00
1991570,04450,7481,123.301,464.30
1990564,84650,5611,117.201,462.60

Median age in yearsMedian age in yearsMean age in yearsMean age in years
Involving COVID-19Due to COVID-19Involving COVID-19Due to COVID-19
Persons838380.380.4
Male818178.678.7
Female858582.382.5

Covid-19 news: Booster omicron protection wanes within 10 weeks

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237475-covid-19-news-booster-omicron-protection-wanes-within-10-weeks/#ixzz7GHxI34a3

now who looks like a dick head you are just a bully that resorts to insults and im not going anywhere and i have helped plenty of people on this forum over the years and dont see jack from you ,do you even have a ebike?


seems you and old goner are just old trolls with nothing else better to do cant provide real stats to back up what you say and so what if no one in hospital is vaccinated it is not killing them on mass is it as the mortality data shows for 2021.

Status of COVID-19
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.



In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.


oh, you’ve learnt how to cut & pasted excerpts from Derek Dickhead’s Facetube page.

The unvaccinated are needlessly draining hospital resources. Each bed occupied by an unvaccinated person is a bed that could be used to care for a cancer or heart patient. You won’t understand that because it’s called having a sense of citizenship.
 
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Zlatan

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look at the ons data i just posted this is now all about cases that i have said many times and this will not end unless the testing centers go we cant cure covid and just have to get on with it afs if i have not even got it in 2 years then i must have antibody's to protect me that are way better than any vaccine that runs out in ten weeks.

my mum also has chronic copd and goes out shopping every single day no mask and has never got it either.
Have you ever wondered that just possibly your mum hasn't caught it because 85% of others have had jab and are being careful and that probably your mum has been lucky..???
I never, ever wore a helmet on motorbike... Never hurt myself once in 10 years riding like a lunatic. Mate killed himself wearing one... That's life sometimes. I was lucky. But its loads safer wearing a helmet... And seat belt in car....and having a jab.
The stats are there for all of them. Just ask at right place. Your hospital. I, ll have you a bet if you ask your GP she/he will tell you to have jab... My eye consultant, my heart consultant and my GP all say same. Get your jab...
My mate, a top enduro racer, you and GI say don't... When I want to know about dongles I, ll ask you. Motorbikes, I, ll ask my mate. Jab.. I, ll ask my consultants.

I doubt Mr Kiriakou would know what dongles are. But about 6 months ago he inserted a camera, probe, laser and rf transmitter inside my beating heart and burnt away faulty nerves/growth. After waking up to a now perfectly beating heart (first time in 5 years) I asked him about diet, activity, exercise. He answered and added... Make sure you get your jabs and booster if needed. Enough said. "yes, I will".
You are putting your faith in GI... and luck.
I, ll listen to Mr Kiriakou..
And Chris Witty, JVT, NHS, JCVI, Mhra, ONS, etc etc etc.
 
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soundwave

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oh, you’ve learnt how to cut & pasted excerpts from Derek Dickhead’s Facetube page.

The unvaccinated are needlessly draining hospital resources. Each bed occupied by an unvaccinated person is a bed that could be used to care for a cancer or heart patient. You won’t understand that because it’s called having a sense of citizenship. You are pre-programmed to take, to sponge and to leech the lifeblood from society. Continue to refuse the vaccine please, the long game could be rather beneficial.
yet again you ignore the facts and wont even look at them and are talking utter crap do as your told like a good little sheep and do as the government says and i take it you have no ebike then and just a troll that lives in the Brexit thread only lol.
 

Jesus H Christ

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Looks like we are set up for a huge experiment. NI, S and W restricting and E not. (E not restricting before New Year effectively means not until at least the 5th due to the need to recall HoC which I doubt can even be started before the 3rd. And we have been told it will take 48 hours minimum.) Therefore, at least ten days regardless what happens between now and then.

Happy New Year to all.
England can’t bring in any new restriction, even if it is known that they are desperately needed. Boris Johnson has publicly soiled himself with lies, corruption and appalling personal behaviour. This has left him with no credibility to lead and no mandate to ask the public to comply. He has no support from the public, his ministers or the Conservative Party. He can only govern with the cooperation and support of the Labour Party, but even then the public are likely to ignore him.

Johnson is over. His buffoon act is no longer funny. He’s spent.
 
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soundwave

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Have you ever wondered that just possibly your mum hasn't caught it because 85% of others have had jab and are being careful and that probably your mum has been lucky..???
if you lived round here no one takes any notice at all since the start and back then there was no vaccine so no she has the same risk now as back then.
 

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England can’t bring in any new restriction, even if it is known that they are desperately needed. Boris Johnson has publicly soiled himself with lies, corruption and appalling personal behaviour. This has left him with no credibility to lead and no mandate to ask the public to comply. He has no support from the public, his ministers or the Conservative Party. He can only govern with the cooperation and support of the Labour Party, but even then the public are likely to ignore him.

Johnson is over. His buffoon act is no longer funny. He’s spent.
And he seems to be hiding at Chequers.

Remind me why he spent a fortune on that media centre? Oh yes - to watch films.
 

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