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Claiming for DEAD people is beyond Waste, it is Fraud, and on a Colossal scale! :-/
There are usually explanations why deaths are not reported. Not all of them lead to erroneous payment. Use your common sense. About 10 billion Like dollars are paid erroneously, that's 1% of the benefits payments. Like here, federal employees are pretty neutral, apolitical. Now musk wants to sack anyone who has worked on dei, climate and gender issues. It's extremely shortsighted. Sooner or later, this kind of politicisation will have to be reversed. King trump won't live forever.
There is no way that the world will go back to western colonial past. Chinese education has literally industrialised China. With 1.4 billion people and 10% a year income increase over 30-40 years, China has become the largest economy in the world on purchasing power parity since 2016. China now has 28 out of 50 top universities, biggest number of scientists, scientific publications and patents. We in the west don't want to know. If you watch yt travel videos, China has overtaken the west on modernities for years now. China produces 22 times more steel than USA, build more ships and soon more planes.
Obama, trump and Biden all have tried to contain China but with such a difference in gdp when measuredin purchase power parity, it's not working for as long as usa has tried. China leads the brics, not Russia, not India, not Brazil. Brics now has a third of world gdp and growth. UK can no longer align with trump. The choice for us is either the trans pacific partnership which will be essentially brics or the EU.
 
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you think our dwp and councils are neutral pmsl they pay all there benefits and housing payments.

both will treat you like a slave and stupid and the few council houses has gone to aliens yet my sister been on waiting list for 25 years.

you still dont get that we live in a corporation it only cares about 1 thing profit what you call politicisation is part of playing the game.

m8 that works at hospital said if they had 30 trillion per year just for that place nothing would change bar more useless pen pusher's sat on there ass all day.

you could kill every mp and nothing would change because they also sit on there ass all day and dont give a shite and are so thick and stupid could not do anything anyway.

and climate change is so important to save the planet 2 country's are carpet bombing the crap out of each other and thats fine because it is for profit.

free energy devices are banned!
anti gravity devices are banned!
cure for cancer is banned!


anything you can make that will mean the end to there long term profit of the corporations is banned or they just blow you up.

you can use debt collectors they use tanks missiles and bombs as there enforcement agency :p
 

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There are usually explanations why deaths are not reported. Not all of them lead to erroneous payment. Use your common sense. About 10 billion Like dollars are paid erroneously, that's 1% of the benefits payments. Like here, federal employees are pretty neutral, apolitical. Now musk wants to sack anyone who has worked on dei, climate and gender issues. It's extremely shortsighted. Sooner or later, this kind of politicisation will have to be reversed. King trump won't live forever.
There is no way that the world will go back to western colonial past. Chinese education has literally industrialised China. With 1.4 billion people and 10% a year income increase over 30-40 years, China has become the largest economy in the world on purchasing power parity since 2016. China now has 28 out of 50 top universities, biggest number of scientists, scientific publications and patents. We in the west don't want to know. If you watch yt travel videos, China has overtaken the west on modernities for years now. China produces 22 times more steel than USA, build more ships and soon more planes.
Obama, trump and Biden all have tried to contain China but with such a difference in gdp when measuredin purchase power parity, it's not working for as long as usa has tried. China leads the brics, not Russia, not India, not Brazil. Brics now has a third of world gdp and growth. UK can no longer align with trump. The choice for us is either the trans pacific partnership which will be essentially brics or the EU.
Deaths not reported? Pull the other one.
The hospital, if not elsewhere, will report?
The doctor issuing the death cert reports?
The morgue reports?
The police attending, if any, report?
The undertaker burying reports and puts it online (RIP.ie, funded by undertakers, who irish gov use for info, was sold to "Irish Times" who promptly decided to charge €100 just for an entry. It's difficult to find out who really owns that, murky "Trust", fishy. Do they want to put people off reporting? Why?).
The insurance company paying out on any policy reports?
The solicitor handling the Estate reports to court?
Next of kin take death cert to Registrar, deceased's pension is stopped same week. RIP
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Deaths not reported? Pull the other one.
People change address, move abroad etc. Keep in mind that those databases were built since a long time ago. Overtime, you'll have a lot of changes in the structures of the databases to accommodate changes.
Just think of someone born in Cork, worked in London then died in Amsterdam or somewhere sunnier like Malaga.
Births and deaths databses are different in each place. When that person died, do you expect the UK DWP stops his pension in the following month? or Eire would update its databases?
 
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People change address, move abroad etc. Keep in mind that those databases were built since a long time ago. Overtime, you'll have a lot of changes in the structures of the databases to accommodate changes.
Just think of someone born in Cork, worked in London then died in Amsterdam or somewhere sunnier like Malaga.
Births and deaths databses are different in each place. When that person died, do you expect the UK DWP stops his pension in the following month? or Eire would update its databases?
We have already seen they are reviewed, in person, after 3, 5 or 7 years. How do "dead" people attend?
Those of us over a "certain" age know that there is an "Attestation" check periodically. If you don't reply and Prove you're still alive, they stop your pension. End of.
If the "dead" are not claiming, but are there just to generate fake Postal Ballots. Then that too is fraud. Electoral fraud.
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We have already seen they are reviewed, in person, after 3, 5 or 7 years. How do "dead" people attend?
Those of us over a "certain" age know that there is an "Attestation" check periodically. If you don't reply and Prove you're still alive, they stop your pension. End of.
If the "dead" are not claiming, but are there just to generate fake Postal Ballots. Then that too is fraud. Electoral fraud.
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Let's be real,voting fraud was never an issue before Trump, he made it an issue in 2016 and 2020 and 2024. In-person wilful voting fraud is extremely rare, can only be influential at local levels, not at presidential election. Wikipedia has this:
In 2012, News21, an Arizona State University journalism project, published a database of 2,068 alleged electoral fraud cases reported between 2000 and 2012.[36] This represented about 0.000003 cases for every vote cast. 46 percent of cases also resulted in acquittals, dropped charges or decisions not to bring charges.[37] News21 gathered the information by sending public records requests to elections officials and prosecutors and reviewing court records and media reports and created the most comprehensive database to-date of electoral fraud despite not being able to obtain data from all jurisdictions.[36] The database also includes instances of voter intimidation.[38]
Incomplete SSA records are not equal to frauds. That's just common sense.
Social security number is not enough to get you a voting card. My daughter worked in Washington DC before, so I am aware. You need proof of nationality and residence to obtain postal ballot papers and fraud will be punished by jail time.
 

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Let's be real,voting fraud was never an issue before Trump, he made it an issue in 2016 and 2020 and 2024. In-person wilful voting fraud is extremely rare, can only be influential at local levels, not at presidential election. Wikipedia has this:

Incomplete SSA records are not equal to frauds. That's just common sense.
Social security number is not enough to get you a voting card. My daughter worked in Washington DC before, so I am aware. You need proof of nationality and residence to obtain postal ballot papers and fraud will be punished by jail time.
In 2020 there were an Extra 20 Million Demo-kratik voters *Suddenly* appeared in the ballot. In 2024 they Dis-appeared. Don't you want to join the search for these poor lost souls? Is it not an "issue".

Here in ireland, a spectacularly unpopular politician went from squeezing thru on the *15th* count to thru on *First* count. That is *After* Anonymous Postal voting was introduced in 2022. An issue? U better believe it!
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The voting participation varies from election to election. In times of economic hardship, more people turn out to vote for example. If it's true that 20 million voters are frauds then how do you explain that their crimes are not proven in courts?
 

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So the new Deutsch pm is an ex Black Rock exec?
Together viz Von der Laying out another €3.5bn of EUSSR funds to elenski.
Open ze borderz und zend out Alles der gelt!
 

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So the new Deutsch pm is an ex Black Rock exec?
Together viz Von der Laying out another €3.5bn of EUSSR funds to elenski.
Open ze borderz und zend out Alles der gelt!
F. Merz is possibly the most able leader of Europe at the moment.
 

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F. Merz is possibly the most able leader of Europe at the moment.
But strangely "leader" of a party which seems neither Conservative, Christian nor Democratic? (POSTAL VOTES)
Will flip any way necessary to get the coalition partner needed to form a gov? Notice East G went solidly for der Alternatif, will there be a split?
Business people direct, hence directors, Politikshuns lead the populace, hence populism. Not the same schtick :)
 

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The voting participation varies from election to election. In times of economic hardship, more people turn out to vote for example. If it's true that 20 million voters are frauds then how do you explain that their crimes are not proven in courts?
I'd say they're gonna start with the 360 year old, live on TV, something like "Record Breakers" and work their way down, using AI to find the contestants? :)
 

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I bet they won't. Misinformation works well in the absence of tangible proofs. People may believe in all sorts of possibilities behind those records that Musk team say they found. Even musk's team goes to court with just one case, that case will then be examined and assumptions of widespread corruption will collapse. Just look at tesla share price today. 24% down in the last 4 weeks.
 
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I bet they won't. Misinformation works well in the absence of tangible proofs. People may believe in all sorts of possibilities behind those records that Musk team say they found. Even musk's team goes to court with just one case, that case will then be examined and assumptions of widespread corruption will collapse. Just look at tesla share price today. 24% down in the last 4 weeks.
the nutters are attacking tesla owners now and putting nazi stickers on them. bbc not show that :rolleyes:


 
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the nutters are attacking tesla owners now and putting nazi stickers on them. bbc not show that :rolleyes:
After trump confirmed tariffs will go ahead 3rd of March, Canada has just threatened to slap tesla evs with 100% tariff.
I wonder where tesla stock will be in April.
 

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